Build Advice Replacement GPU for Premium Player Build

Hey!

I'm building the premium player rig for a friend, and the GTX 590 is out of stock everywhere. I've looked at all the sites I can think of, and the few I can find are ridiculously over priced.

So out of these, whats the closest to the 590:

* Dual 6970
* Dual 580's
* Single 6990

I'm leaning towards the 6970's, simply because googlin' a '6790 crossfire 590' bought up nothing but praise for the ATi cards.

Suggestions?

 

Dual 580's would be slightly faster than the 590.

What res are you playing at? 590's/6990 might be way ott

 

Well he's like you have a budget of 2.5k go make me a PC. And in the interest of not blowing it all on useless filler stuff, I was simply going to get the premium player.

They'll be powering a U2711 (and/or a Apple Cinema display depending on it how well it works with a non Apple PC).

2 x 580's run for slightly dearer than a 590, where as 2 x 6970's are about the same price or slightly cheaper.

So its:

2 * 580 > 590

Where would the 6990 / 2 * 6970 fit in that chain

 

I was just to lazy to type about type about the ATI cards lol. Are you going water or air?

 

It'd be in the FT02. So as good as air can possibly be

 

I think you will get crazy temps with two 580's in an FT02! I would also only get rear exhausting cards to work with the FT02's airflow or just get wet

 

Look at the temperature on SLI 580's!

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/16

 

Go to your friend and tell him 2.5k for a PC is ridiculous.
Say you can get a 2500k +580 + 24" dell + big SSD + £200 of speakers/mouse/keyboard for around £1500
The only reason you'd ever need that much is triple monitor stuff.

 

A single 580/6970 should be enough for 2560*1440. Also I would tell him that 2.5k is silly and ~1.7k is "more" reasonable.

 

I assume the D800 they mention that the case is in this review is the corsair 800D, if so we can say that what we all know, which is the 800D is crap for air cooling anything, hence the terrible temperatures, I'm sure it would be much better in an FT02

 

Not everyone is a serial upgrader like so many of us are - some people want to spend a large amount of money and have a computer that will be awesome now, awesome next year and awesome a year after that. Then very good for the next few years.

I would get 2 cards with good coolers, both with at least 2gb memory each for longevity. 6970s?

 

Rear exhausting 580's are easily found, and as you say, would be preferable in the FT02

The case used for testing is obviously a poor air cooling case, remember the FT02 is one of the best air cooling cases around! My single 580 never goes over 65C with stock cooler at 99% GPU load and a sensible fan profile. Also, if you buy a half-decent motherboard, the two 16x slots will be spread apart sensibly.

Yeah 2.5 is too much, even for the best of everything. Dual 580's are a must though, one will not suffice - I speak from experience!

TSB

 

Yeah I know but its still going to get very very hot in the FT02, especially if you want to have a soundcard in one of your PCI slots.

Maybe a mobo like this EVGA one? I love EVGA stuff

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=130-SB-E675-KR&family=Motherboard%20Family&series=All%20Motherboards&sw=5

 

Cheers everyone for your replies and insight!!

@Why is it 2.5k:

He's coming of the back of a traditional dust carpeted Celeron, which is what the PC un-initiated tend to own. I believe he's gunning for a 5-6 year non upgrade period so needs as much future proofing as possible without being silly

@580's are hawt!

I was planning on getting reference designs anyway, which I believe are rear exhausting. Un-exciting as I am; I take the dim view that once the makers (ie NVIDIA), who know the hardware better than anyone else, have made something why would OEM's want to change that?

But hell, I'm the kind of guy that loses sleep if my cars overdue for a service by one mile

@The budget is to high

I'm running with this months premium player, which is 2.2k, and I agree with the BT justification for all of it. If there's things that can be removed (based on how long this PC will be in service) I'd be interested.


Also - No one's mentioned the 6990 yet? As far as I can tell it's punch and counter punch against a GTX590 all depending on the game.

This is less of a "What GPU do I need" thread, and more of a "The premium player 590's out of stock, in terms real world, benchmark and theoretical performance, what would be a sensible equivilant"

But thanks everyone for your input

 

the irony is delicious....

 

+rep good sir

 

I would get 3 u2311 dell monitors for £500-600. (I paid £495)
Drop dual gtx 580s in it and he'll be set for some very decent gameplay.

If he just wants the single 27, I would get 570 sli or 580 but it might be abit ott.
With a huge budget it's best to get what you can so dual 580 might be your best bet but save money on things he'll never use like a very high end mobo with features no one uses for things he will use like a decent keyboard mouse soundcard etc

 

Well if that's all you're after - Get two 580s. They will exceed the performance of a single 590, and a HD 6990. At the cost of higher initial outlay and slightly higher power consumption.

Pics when it happens!

TSB

 

Get two 3Gb 580's!

 

More to the point, if he is coming off of a celeron he sounds like a Luddite who will undoubtedly fill the computer with spyware and complain when it goes slow...

/Jest