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Random Crashing - Asus A7N8X Deluxe and 2 x 512MB DIMMs

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  1. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    I've got a problem with my system - i just upgraded my memory to 2 x 512MB PC3200 Corsair DIMMs on my Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard and my stability has gone out the window

    I am getting random crashes while booting, random crashes in games, 3dmark03 randomly crashes with corrupt objects or scripts. I relaxed the memory timings to 8-3-3-2.5T and still no difference. Oddly, when i had 2 x 256MB PC3200 DIMMs I could run them at 2-2-2-2T without issue, but the 512MB DIMMs will only boot WindowsXP at 2-3-2-2T.

    I'm investigating the possibility that the DIMMs are both faulty (got access to a DIMM tester at work) but in the meantime:

    1 - Is anyone aware of any problems with the A7N8X and half gig dimms? Its possible the motherboard is a revision 1.3 or worse as i bought it not long after they hit the retailers. How do I check the revision?

    2 - Anyone aware of any problems with Corsair 512MB PC3200 DIMMs? I was under the impression that Corsair make quality DIMMs, is this not the case?

    3 - Does anyone know of any apps i can run to test my ram block by block?

    Any help is greatly appreciated :sigh:
     
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  2. rich_bytes

    rich_bytes What's a Dremel?

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    Do a google search for memtest86:- it's a pretty thorough memory tester and will enable you to determine which of the DIMMs (if any) is faulty.
     
  3. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    1st dimm, the one i suspected was faulty first, showed 226 errors on a basic test... so thats good ;)

    however, the second dimm is exhibiting similar behaviour now, but shows no errors at all - bit worried about this :/
     
  4. Green Soda

    Green Soda What's a Dremel?

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    i have an A7N8X deluxe vr.2.0 and pc3200 corsair low lat. ram (2x256), and all works really well. I have my timings very agressive, and its verys stable. Might be a bad ram, or the board, some a7n8x's have problems with ram...

    Edit: And as luck has it, after i post this, i get a blue screen of death :wallbash:
     
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  5. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    this is getting to me now

    memtest86, full test - 6 hours of it on only the one 512MB dimm, the one with no errors on the basic test

    no errors found

    then, today i get this

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    as i've said, the system was rock solid with 2 x 256MB DIMMs, since i swapped to these 512MBs i have had nothing but crashes

    how reliable is memtest86? i'm starting to suspect its my mobo, but thats going to be a pain to replace, especially if its not at fault >.<

    will getting a rev 2.0 A7N8X (forgot to mention, the one i have right now is the Deluxe version) be a good idea? other than putting these 512MB dimms in its been a rock solid and reliable motherboard :(

    :wallbash:

    EDIT: looking at the revision 2 mobo review, http://www.bit-tech.net/review/216/2 shows where the PCB says "rev 2.00" - my version has no revision number here at all, so its possible its a very low revision
     
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  6. Necrosis

    Necrosis What's a Dremel?

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    I'm running the 1.04 rev. version of this board w/ two sticks of Corsair XMS PC3500. How do you have your ram installed? My timings are 2-2-2-5.
     
  7. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    the dimms are in slot 1 and 3
    ram timings makes no difference to whether or not it crashes
    2 x 256MB dimms were at 2-2-2-2T
    1 x 512 or 2 x 512 wont go below 2-3-2-2T
     
  8. sinizterguy

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    My guess would be either the RAM or the PSU.

    If you have a cheap generic PSU, that might be the cause of random crashes.

    Especially if you have a good graphic card and plenty of optical and hard disk drives.
     
  9. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    do 512MB dimms consume significantly more power than 256MB? i've never had a problem before, and as i have said it was rock solid with 256MB dimms
     
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    No they dont consume that much more power, but it could have been the straw that broke the camels back if you have a cheap generic PSU.


    Try running memtest first tho. If you get errors, then replace mem, if not then its mostly the PSU.
     
  11. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    ok, fair enough :) been meaning to buy a bigger PSU ever since i got my radeon 9700

    memtest showed errors on one dimm but not the other, so i'm RMAing that

    do you recommend a psu? what rating would be best for:

    radeon 9700
    athlon 2400+
    asus a7n8x deluxe
    40gb hdd
    120gb hdd
    dvdrom/cdr combo
    2 x 512MB dimms
    4 x 80mm lighted case fans

    thanks :clap:
     
  12. sinizterguy

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    If the system stops giving errors with that DIMM removed, you might as well stay with this PSU if all the voltages are in order.

    If not, I think maybe Antec PSUs ? Something over 400W atleast ?
     
  13. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    well this is the thing, i removed the faulty dimm but the problems persist on the remaining non faulty dimm :( thats why i ran the "complete test" - 6 hours for 512MB, yeesh - thats also why, as that dimm passed with 0 errors i was suspecting its a problem with early revisions of the a7n8x, but no one has been able to verify that

    cant find anything online to that effect either

    i'll look around for a 400W psu - if it comes to it, i'll bring my next upgrade forward a few months and get a rev 2 a7n8x and new cpu :(
     
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    MikeTitan Ling Ling: 273 Battle Points

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    <rant> Dude I like this mobo cause I have one But it has a ton of problems it seems. I mean I had to hammer out a few of my own. Video card ones.. I like the board but it seems it was shipped with a barrel o' bugs </rant>
     
  15. Lightning

    Lightning What's a Dremel?

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    heh - its been, surprisingly, rock solid for me up to now - once i got my radeon 9700 working with it anyway

    however, it seems that it *might* be the power - i unhooked a few devices, and the power LED, which hasnt worked for ages, is now lit up :)

    i'm going to do some more testing, but good call that man :D

    EDIT: or not, just crashed :( ah, i'll try a new psu as from what i have read radeon 9700s and up are pretty power hungry
     
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