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Biden: his time as the 46th US President

Discussion in 'Serious' started by yuusou, 6 Jul 2020.

  1. Risky

    Risky Modder

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    A shame they banned him as his twitter now would surely be enough to get the senate votes against him.
     
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  2. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Over the Hills and Far Away

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    One of the House Republicans said something like "When YOU do riots, it's ok, but when WE do it, it's treason?" *facepalm
     
  3. VipersGratitude

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    I think a measure of levity is in order...

     
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  4. walle

    walle Minimodder

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    The 25th amendment isn't for Trump. It's for Biden.
     
  5. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    As I understand it, Pence is right not to invoke the 25th. It's supposed to be an emergency backstop, in case Trump chokes to death on his cheeseburger, for example. It wasn't designed to be invoked as a punitive measure.
     
  6. walle

    walle Minimodder

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    If I recall Clinton referred to voters as basket of deplorables, talked about election fraud, that the election wasn't fair, that there was a Russian conspiracy to put Trump into office. I also recall MSM pushing this narrative for a very long time after the election. I wouldn't say that this fomented any less hatred or division either, it kind of set the stage for for things to come.

    To better understand a situation you have to look at the bigger picture and not pick and chose to make it fit your own political views. Either you did just that. or you are suffering from amnesia.
     
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  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The other thing he consistently does is not pay his bills

     
  8. wolfticket

    wolfticket Downwind from the bloodhounds

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    It's a common reading that inability can cover things other than medical. Actively committing sedition could certainly be seen as incompatible with his office, and therefore render him (by his own actions) unable to act as president: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twent..._and_cabinet_members_of_president's_inability
     
  9. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Atempted coup in the 20's and he goes to prison after a trial where he can spread his bile - now where have I heard that before?
     
  10. Byron C

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    Well you recall incorrectly, because she didn't say that about voters in general, she said it about Trump supporters:

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    *looks at Trump supporters on the 6th of Jan*

    Yeah I'd say that qualifies.

    I don't know if I'd go so far as to say a 'conspiracy', but there was almost certainly interference in the 2016 presidential election - and the 2016 Brexit referendum, I might add. You can look that one up yourself, I'm not doing your homework for you.

    Ok let me be clearer: Trump has consistently spread misinformation and lies about the election results and has fomented RACIAL hatred and RACIAL division throughout his entire term. In the context of white supremacists storming the Capitol building I had rather assumed that the 'racial' part there was strongly implied.

    Practice what you preach.
     
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  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Hitler, at least, was a capable orator.

    Trump sounds like a deflating whoopie cushion covered in fake tan.
     
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  12. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    As for orator, maybe, but the end result has got him results in the form of 70+million supporters.

    I doubt he's capable of writing anything more than a MaccaD order though.

    But, well, the US is in a very different place.
     
  13. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I think, for all his flaws, trump's best skill is stoking the fires of hatred. He's incompetent at basically everything else as far as I can tell. Which, unfortunately, speaks to apparently about seventy million Americans, of whom some are further down the garden path than others..
     
  14. Gareth Halfacree

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    Herr Nigel Farridge has lost his Telegraph podcast. For those lucky enough to be unaware Farridge had a Telegraph podcast, it was called The Trump Card, with Nigel Farridge, and its description was: "Donald Trump and Nigel Farridge are two of a kind. They share a fervour, a following and a friendship. Ahead of the upcoming US election, the Brexit Party leader gives us the inside track - does his friend have the winning hand or are the odds stacked against him?"

    Pfft.
     
  15. RedFlames

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    Nothing of value was lost
     
  16. Anfield

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    The problem is that it could take ages to settle the dispute over whether it covers Trump being unfit (rather than unable) to hold Office. And yes, they could easily end up wasting days or weeks discussing such semantics.

    Of course if he keeps stiffing his lawyers he might run out of ones wiling to defend him first lol.
     
  17. IanW

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    Just heard on the radio that even Macauley Culkin wants Donnie edited out of Home Alone 2! :lol:
     
  18. Gareth Halfacree

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    I think you'll find that's Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin.
     
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  19. wolfticket

    wolfticket Downwind from the bloodhounds

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    The interpretation is there, it would just require Pence to act upon it (which of course renders things moot in this case).

    Then the main difference between it and impeachment is that if a majority of the 15 principal officers concur with the VP the removal of powers is immediate, only then requiring a 2/3 majority vote in the House and Senate within 21 days to stop them from being reinstated.

    The idea of the 25th is to stop the sort of thing you mention above and make it such that the President can immediately be replaced in an emergency without requiring the relatively long-winded process of impeachment.
     
  20. Anfield

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    From what I understand Trump could say it isn't there (as a defense strategy to drag things out long enough for it to not matter).
     

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