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Athlon 2800+ ThouroughBred or Barton

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by wip3out, 19 Mar 2004.

  1. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    Probably an easy answer to this Im looking upgrade my CPU.

    So what do I buy the Athlon 2800+ with the ThouroughBred (2.25Ghz) or the Barton core (2.08Ghz)?? I have noticed the Barton has a higer L2 cache over the thouroughbred however the ThouroughBred has a higher multiplyer...

    Im a bit lost which should i go for?? also Im looking at getting a new HSF for this any reccomendations to provide me with some overclocking oppurtunities??

    Thanks
     
  2. daniel_owen_uk

    daniel_owen_uk What's a Dremel?

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    Barton all day and slk900
     
  3. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit Modder

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    Clock for clock it would have to be the Barton, but as you state the T-Bred has a higher clock.
    I'd still go for the Barton, and as both will overclock to similar speeds you will see a greater boost with the Barton's larger L2.
     
  4. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    I'd go with the barton over the tbred :)
     
  5. fivecheebs

    fivecheebs Dont panic!

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  6. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks guys Im gonna either get the 2800+ Barton or the 3000+ Barton. Ive been looking at water cooling instead of a HSF and found this kit http://web6.scan.co.uk/Products/Info.asp?WPID=60320, is it worth paying the extra money for this??

    The kit just seems a bit cheap for watercooling, and as sound isnt really an issue would it be justified for the extra cooling and overclockability.

    Thanks
     
  7. Endre

    Endre What's a Dremel?

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    You know a place they actually sell the 2800 T'bred? They are pretty rare.
     
  8. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    hypocrisy86 Banned

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  10. MiNiMaL_FuSS

    MiNiMaL_FuSS ƬӇЄƦЄ ƁЄ ƇƠƜƧ ӇЄƦЄ.

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    save sum time, effort and trouble and go over to cpucity

    and buy and unlocked barton xp2500+

    these will clock straight to a xp3200+ with most motherboards (have to have 400fbs natch)
     
  11. Atomic

    Atomic Gerwaff

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    That kit doesn't perform much better than a decent HSF really, the only real difference is its quieter. If your gonna go watercooling do it decently with a quality set of components.
     
  12. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    Cool thanks I'll check it out.

    I think I'll get this :-

    http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=71

    or

    http://www.cpucitystore.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=392

    Unless Im missing something the 2800+ unlocked would be an amazingly good purchase over the 2500+ what kind of speeds would I be looking at with this at 400FSB??
     
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  13. Atomic

    Atomic Gerwaff

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    Get a mobile Barton, those clock quite nicely :D
     
  14. Mace

    Mace Ohh, it stings.

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    Eh, I think unlocked cpu's are overrated... My barton came locked at 11x, and I keep my clock at 191mhz, hence a 2.1GHz speed.. no probs at all, it's as stable as it could ever be, I've tried 200mhz, but I believe that it doesn't have enough voltage (wouldn't boot into windows), but I don't care to adjust it, 2.1ghz is perfectly fine for anyone :) (IE: I really don't think it's worth paying extra for a mobile 2500+ just for the multiplier being unlocked)

    Pick a barton :)
     
  15. fivecheebs

    fivecheebs Dont panic!

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    If you want to get the max out of your FSB, and in turn your memory bus you need to be able to adjust the multi. Its also good for stressing either the CPU/mobo but not RAM or RAM/mobo but not CPU to figure out where the weaknesses lie. 10*210 will perform better than 11*191 at the same memory timings and memory bus speed due to the extra memory bandwidth.
     
  16. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    Ive ordered the Barton 2800+ unlocked from cpu city which I hope to run at 10x200 which should produce a speed similar to the barton 3200+ with my cosair memory I have ordered, at a bargain price :D
     
  17. Sc0rian

    Sc0rian Here comes the farmer

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    barton all the way

    I got 2800 barton

    [​IMG]
     
  18. fivecheebs

    fivecheebs Dont panic!

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    Indeed, I was mearly pointing out the advantages of an unlocked multi to Mace. BTW, if you run at 11*200 that will be the default speed of a 3200+ @ 2.2Ghz, not 10*200 which is 2.0Ghz.
     
  19. wip3out

    wip3out What's a Dremel?

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    Sorry fivecheebs I wasnt disagreeing I didnt mean to add your quote in there just forgot to remove it. thanks for clearing up the multiplier settings I will need.
     
  20. fivecheebs

    fivecheebs Dont panic!

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    hehe no probs :thumb:
     

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