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Modding question on buttons...

Discussion in 'Modding' started by Kingskin, 17 Aug 2004.

  1. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    i want to buy some Bulgin vandal resistant buttons to replace my existing power and reset case buttons, but after looking on farnell im not sure which type i need. Could anyone let me know what i need, and if its not too much of a mission briefly describe what the difference is between each of them in case i need any other type of switches for other purposes. The ones ive seen are:

    Single Pole
    SPCO
    SPNO
    SPNO Momentary
    SPNO/SPNC

    Thanks very much for any help :)
     
  2. Skylined

    Skylined Minimodder

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    SPNO Momentary

    Single Pole, Normally Opened, Momentary
     
  3. princexxx

    princexxx What's a Dremel?

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    Think of it this way
    Normally opened = no connection therefore no circuit therefore not on. once you press it, the circuit is completed which allows the computer to start.
    momentarily = for a small part of time. therefore once it has turned the compuer on, it will not keep trying to turn the computer on. Its like an ignition in a car in a way.
     
  4. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    excellent thanks for your help princexxx & Skylined :thumb:
     
  5. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    OK so i'll use SPNO for both power and reset, but i've decided i'd like to use a matching button to turn all my case lighting on and off - am i right in thnking that i need SPNO/SPNC for this? Im assuming this means Single Pole Normally Open / Single Pole Normally Closed. Or do i just need a normal single pole one?

    Sorry for the simple question but all i know about electronics ive learnt in the last few days since i reistered here :blush:

    :hip:
     
  6. coorz

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    Well that's not possible with that Bulgin momentary switch. You'll need a flipflop circuit to realise that.
     
  7. Stormtrooper

    Stormtrooper Shh...

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    For one of those bulgin illuminated buttons... do they usually house a 3mm or a 5mm LED?
     
  8. coorz

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    Specsheet will perhaps mention that. But there's no way of dismantling the Bulgin without some serious hacking. It's anti-vandal resistant remember :)
     
  9. jezmck

    jezmck Minimodder

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    afaik, you can't replace the LEDs in those switches.
    (correct me if I'm wrong anyone)
     
  10. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    ok cheers *off to google flipflop curcuit!*

    out of interest, what would happen if i were to put a button/switch on the +ve line that powered the lighting?
     
  11. coorz

    coorz Miffed

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    Why Google if you have the Electronics forum here :thumb:
     
  12. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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  13. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    Excellent anwswer cpemma thats exactly what i needed! and youve even included a nice n00b friendly diagram alongside the scary looking curcuit diagram! :D Ill have to have a look round the rest of the site too. Thanks again ;)
     
  14. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    OK im going to go ahead and get the parts to make this curcuit, ive searched for them on farnell, but i just want to make sure ive definitely got the right stuff, is there any chance someone could have a look and make sure these are the correct things to buy:

    4013B dual D-type Flip Flop, 14-pin DIL socket

    IRF530 n-channel mosfet

    1M 0.25W Resistor

    1k 0.25W Resistor

    100k 0.25W

    This i have no idea about, i took a stab in the dark with it so this especially i could do with confirmation on:
    100n ceramic disc or mylar film capacitor

    Also i see 2 components marked T1 & t2 on the picture of the curcuit board, but theres no reference to them in the pats list and they dont seem to appear on the curcuit diagram - I take it these are transistors - are these optional components? And im probably being a dumbass, but where does part Q, the IRF530 n-channel mosfet go? Is this in place of the transistors shown in the photo?

    One last thing, at the bottom of the article it says:

    "If you're wanting to switch a relay or other reactive load, a diode (eg, an ultrafast 1A 400v UF4004) should be connected across each pair of output terminals on rows 1 & 3, banded cathode end to +12v on row 1. They're not needed for brushless fans."

    How does this affect the cold cathode lighting that i'm intending to switch with it? do i need this extra component for that? Will this also work with LEDs/LED arrays?

    Sorry for being such a pain in the arse but ive never made anything like this before and i'd really like it to work right! :dremel:
     
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    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Your link is 100pF, you need 100nF =0.1uF

    Can't see cheap ones at Farnell, they're only about 6p even at Maplin.

    My bad, the schematic program (Circuitmaker) labels transistors Q, Stripboard Magic labels them T. T=Q, both are transistors.

    To cover anything you might connect I'd fit the diodes, they're only 9p each.
     
  16. Kingskin

    Kingskin What's a Dremel?

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    cool thanks for your help cpemma, ill get on and make this asap :)
     
  17. Ben '71 1200

    Ben '71 1200 What's a Dremel?

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    Hmmmmm :D :dremel:
     

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