Cheers again noizdaemon, I'll just leave it then as the price increase is pretty steep. I've not really thought about mATX just because one day I might need some of those extra slots for a HD tuner (when they fall a LOT in price) and who knows what else. Sound card wise, hadn't spent too long researching them. Just read somewhere that the DG was very good for its price with fewer driver issues than the Creative cards, is that right? any other recommendations? Haven't got an incredible set of speakers to really use justify spending that much on a sound card, so perhaps I'll just hold off for a while till I can afford both. Wasn't really planning on upgrading for at least 4 or 5 years so not too bothered about PCI going obsolete for now anyway. If I took the soundcard out, any other parts anyone would upgrade? Limits maybe 950 ish.