£2000-£3000 for new pc can anyone give me some advice

bob check your pm's

 

Isn't that like 5000 bucks? Thats like maxishines kind of computer. I vote for some sort of sli...

 

just want the best and the most future proof for 2k-3k

 

check your pms bobreece....

 

To be honest, no matter how much money you spend on a PC its not going to be future proof, infact theres no such thing as future proof.

Yeah sure it will work and be fast for much longer than my PC, but the technology could completly change in a few years and then your £2000/£3000 PC will be nothing.

Build it yourself, its not scary at all, buy all the parts get people on here to help you choose, and then people can help you put it together, the hardest part is applying thermal paste, but a lot of cooler such as the AC freezer 7 (I'm not bias, promise) already has it applied.

If you bought a £3000 PC, it would not be 3 times faster than a £1000 PC, it wouldnt even be 2 times faster, really to you as a user it wouldnt be any faster, it would be insane for benchmarks, but not for you.

Spend £1000, if you want future proofing spend another £1000 in 2 years, and then another £1000 2 years later, and the 3rd one will last you 2 years. That is 6 years of computing for £3000 (and think of the money you can get back from selling your old parts), plus all the knowledge gained from building 3 pcs. If you spend £3000 on a PC it will not last you 6 years and still be the cutting edge.

 

Mattiucus is 1000% correct, I can't agree more! I can't tell you how many people I know that are supper pround of their super expensive computer, however are deceived that my, significantly cheaper computer can get almost the same results, and it won't last much longer. I expect 3-5 months more. Is it worth it? Nha! And at the end they regret really bad, and the worst is that many of them they don't have the funds to get a new computer and are stuck with their dated computer.

Matticus, said it so well, I really can't add anything more to what he said.

 

i know it will never be furture proof just want the best for now i have the cash and not exactly poor 3k is pocket money so money dont matter

 

the thing is, after 1000, the extra money you spent is less than worth the extra performance.

you are better off just update the hardware every year, (not whole computer, update GPU every year)
as far as i can see:
-CPU's don't outdate so fast, so a q9450 should last you long enough
-8GB RAM will be here to stay for a while. so get this
-case/PSU won't outdate at all
-it's so easy to get 2TB of story space now, so this also won't upgrade
-GPU is the only thing you need to upgrade every year. and it's really easy to upgrade. as long as you've played N64, you will know how to do it.

3k - 1k is 2k, put that in the bank mini ISA account, 1 year later, you'd have about 50 pounds extra and a bit more pocket money to upgrade the graphics card.

tell you the truth, i built my sig computer 6 month ago, and it was top end then, you cannot get any faster.
but 6 month later, it's the 2nd best, new quad core (although only 10% speed increase) new graphics card all come out.
so if you've got the money, get the new quad core, and grab any graphics card. now just upgrade to next biggest baddest graphics card when that's released. you'll have a very long lasting computer that way.

 

If you want to future proof spend 1K now, prepare to spend another 1K in a years time, and the last 1K a year after that

And build your own computer, you have google and this website get reading all you can, buy an anti static wrist band and your away

 

You'll become incredibly unpopular very quickly on here with that attitude, all everyone is trying to do is save your money and recommend better hardware, that will give you a better computer. If you want to waste your 'pocket money' go buy an Apple. If you want a decent computer, that will impress you with performance, gaming capability and value for money, listen to everyone and learn something. You can't come onto a forum asking for peoples (who by the sound of it are more knowledgable than you) advice, then go ahead and not listen to it.

Ps: No offence to Apple owners intended.. they're just too expensive for what they are. =)

 

Yeah I was gearing up to say that. Maybe not the apple part, but I do agree with that aswell.

Basically I see it as you have 2 choices.

1. You can accept the advice of everyone on a computer forum, you asked for the advice, so it would be rude not to take it.
I assume the reason you asked on here is because you knew that a lot of people know a lot about computers, more than you, otherwise you wouldn't have asked. So buy a PC for no more than £1200 and be happy knowing that you have £1800 left over for other stuff and a PC which is just as good if not better than the original one you posted.
2. You can just spend £3k needlessly on a PC and waste nearly £2000, this is a lot of money, it may not be to you as you get £3000 pocket money but this is a lot of money to basically 99.99999% of the people here. By chosing this option you manage to waste money and alienate yourself from a pretty fantastic community.

Your call...

 

Intel Quad Core (Q9xxx) at least 4GB DDR3, X48 motherboard, NVidia 9800 GX2, Asus Xonar soundcard, Samsung F1 1TB partitioned, CM Cosmos S, Logitech G7 + G15, Dell 30" 3008FPW, BRD Writer, Logitech Z5500's, Canon MP800 or whatever the current one is now, Microsoft VX Lifecam. I think that's just about everything covered.

Basically, you want premium parts all the way. Go to someone who can build it for you and get them to spec it up. Agree the price and pick it up. It'll be like a bespoke prebuilt PC.

 

Even if i knew nothing about PC building, I'd still rather learn something and attempt to do it myself... Maybe not with £3000 worth of components, but then again I wouldn't spend that much on a PC anyway.

 

dont have an attitude just got what i want in my mind and i dont want to build one myself and i have always dream of a fantstic pc thats watercooled and all lite up we all have our dream machines just wanted someone of you opions and advice so i could have a general idea of what alot of people think

 

Well your advice is not to bother with an 'Ultimate prebuilt dream machine' as they are a waste of money and underpowered. The only prebuild I would buy if I had the money would be the Scan 3XS White Cobra, which is around £6000, get it with your pocket money.

 

We get that, but what we are saying is that you dont have to spend £3000 to get that.

Even if you got it built for you, you still dont have to spend £3000, you can find a system which is just as good for around £1000 then build it yourself or get someone else to build it. If you look in the yellow pages a lot of IT shops offer PC building services. Also there are lots of website out there that you can spec PCs on and get them built for as little as £20/£30.

Basically mate, we are trying to save you money and getting you a system that performs the same if not better, remember you dont always get what you pay for.

And come on, I think everyone here will agree, try and build it yourself. The satisfaction of building your first PC is great, you get to learn how it works, what goes where and what each part is. You also have the bragging rights of saying how you built your awesome water cooled PC.

 

watercooling scares me to build seems very difficult.
can you answer a few questions please

1 is ddr3 worth it over dd2 if it is already in the system?
2 are the 790i motherboards any good?
3 what screen should i go for was lokking at the nice looking samsungs?
4 if i have 2 9800gx2 on only a 20 or 22inch monitor would it be able to run crysis easy or would 2 be to much ?
5 is water cooling worth it?
6 and what do you have to do to mantain the watercooling to you have to
drain it every so often?

 

Watercooling is a pretty significant effort, and I would not recommend it for your first build. I'd not even recommend it in a commercial system, actually - modern air cooling with heatpipes works extremely well, and while well-built water loops don't require much maintenance, they still require some.

1 is ddr3 worth it over dd2 if it is already in the system?
No. Actually, at the current prices, it's not even worth it if you're choosing which to buy for a totally new system and don't already have DDR2.

2 are the 790i motherboards any good?
I'm not sure, but SLI really isn't worth the money. I'd go with a P35 unless you absolutely must have SLI.

3 what screen should i go for was lokking at the nice looking samsungs?
What size are you hoping to get? I'll leave the model numbers to someone else as I've never used Samsung monitors, but do you have anything in mind?

4 if i have 2 9800gx2 on only a 20 or 22inch monitor would it be able to run crysis easy or would 2 be to much ?
A quad-SLI setup on small monitors like that is probably overkill. A single GX2 might not play everything flawlessly, but doubling up will cost a ridiculous amount of money and only give a few percent performance increase.

5 is water cooling worth it?
6 and what do you have to do to mantain the watercooling to you have to drain it every so often?
For these last two questions, refer again to the first thing I wrote. It's really not worth it in most situations. Building an air-cooled computer is as easy as playing with Legos, but building a watercooling loop is significantly more complicated. I'd definitely not suggest it for the first system you build, and even if you're still thinking of prebuilt systems, it's not worth it. The current generation of air coolers is fantastic, and saves you having to watch the condition of your coolant and top it up occasionally.

 

this is more like it

1. Well for the average user DDR2 is a much better investment because the money saved can be spent on something else to gain more overall system performance.
2. Read me
3. get 2 24/26inch dell ultra sharps, would look the absolute sex
4. for a single monitor 2 9800GX2s would be overkill. If you just want to run crysis on very high, get 2x 8800GTX
5. water cooling is worth if it you want to overclock massively or if you want a really silent system, though in a lot of cases you can get a system just as quiet if not quieter with good air cooling.
6. most people change the fluid every 6 to 12 months, basically just drain the system, a res would make this a lot easier.

I am not really the one to answer the watercooling questions, someone else will cover those better

I suggest what you do, is get on scan and just look around and see what you want to buy, check to make sure its compatable, post it here and someone will tell you for sure if it works and what would be a better choice for some parts.

I can understand being scared about water cooling, but with your huge amount of cash you could always build your system with air cooling at first so you get a good idea of how everything works then get water cooling when you are more comfortable.

But Im off to bed now. night-o

 

is not 2 9800gx2 better than 2 8800gtx cards?