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Equipment £400 for dSLR?

Discussion in 'Photography, Art & Design' started by pyro1son, 13 Apr 2012.

  1. pyro1son

    pyro1son Linux User!

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    Which one! Currently looking at Nikon D3100?

    What do you think?
     
  2. Nealieboyee

    Nealieboyee Packaging Master!

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    Canon 1100D is in the same price range. Comes with an 18-55mm kit lens. The D3100 has 1080p video whereas the 1100d only has 720p. But lenses are cheaper for Canon....

    Wuyanxu just bought a D3100 so you can ask him sometime how he finds it. I have the 1100D and its fantastic!

    The Nikon doesnt have the focus motor in the body, so you will need lenses with motors, meaning a higher lens cost.

    Another thread elsewhere...
     
  3. Threefiguremini

    Threefiguremini New Member

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    Go to a shop and hold them both. They are both great cameras so it really comes down to personal preference about the ergonomics
     
  4. GregTheRotter

    GregTheRotter New Member

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    Not true re lens prices. The updated versions of canon lenses have pretty similar prices to nikon, albeit I. Each the new canon 70-200 mk II is the same if not more pricey than the nikon mk ii, the new canon 24-70 f2. 8 mk ii insured will also be similarly to priced, and or more expensive than nikons current and model. All new lenses from nikon have motors in them. For example the nikon 50 1.8G, and 85 1.8G. There are some lenses canon has that nikon does not, then and vice versa.

    With nikon you can use old manual focus on lenses with the nikon, albeit in manual mode.

    Obviously there are some lenses canon has that nikon does not, at least not at the moment. 70-200 f4, 100-400 f5.6, and a few others. Same applies for nikon, 14-24, 16-35 f4, 200-400 f4. Then again I doubt someone buying a £400 entry sale will be buying any of those lenses any time soon.

    Nikon, at least up to now, is known for their more reliable flash performance with speedlights.

    Each system has their pros and cons.
     
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  5. pyro1son

    pyro1son Linux User!

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    Think im going to go with this
     
  6. GregTheRotter

    GregTheRotter New Member

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    Link takes me to the main jessops, sure. Just copy paste the what you got tbh.. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Nealieboyee

    Nealieboyee Packaging Master!

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    Its the Canon 550D Twin Lens Bundle, but it expired a few days ago. It had a 70-300mm and an 18-55mm if i remember correctly. About £450

    Edit: Here we go. Scroll down for specs
     
  8. wuyanxu

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    thanks for info Greg, didn't know about Mk2 lenses, but what Neal said is still correct for cheap lenses.

    eg, i've been looking at cheaper prime lenses. 50mm f/1.8. Nikon £180 while Canon is only £88.

    but for more expensive lenses, both are similarly priced, so it's not that big of an issue.


    for the body, from what i've read, the D3100 seems just manage to edge 1100D overall, but it's also slightly more expensive. seeing none of the DSLR have touch screens yet, i've opted for Nikon because its surface is filled with buttons for easier access to features, i really like that thumb wheel to adjust aperture/shutter speed. (and the deal on Bittech marketplace)
     
  9. mayhem

    mayhem Owner of Mayhems

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    Tesco have the Canon 1100D in fir £349 (that's hat i paid the other week)

    Got a deal from comment for 2 lenses extra for £100
     
  10. smc8788

    smc8788 ...at least I have chicken

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    The Nikon 50mm 1.8D is around the same price as the Canon, although since you have a D3100 with no built-in motor you would be limited to manual focus only. The 1.8G is more expensive because it is newer (and better) than the older Canon lens.
     
  11. Nealieboyee

    Nealieboyee Packaging Master!

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    Which lenses mate? And did you mean Comet?
     
  12. wuyanxu

    wuyanxu still wants Homeworld 3

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    are we really going to notice the differences in lens quality with these cheapest DSLR's?
     
  13. GregTheRotter

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    At 100% pixel viewing, yes. The new one will be sharper wide open, and more accurate as, less chromatic abberations etc. I've got the old 50 1.8d but as my body af's with it, no ways am I selling my lens for nothing only to have to spend that kind of cash on the new version. It's one thing to get rid of a dud lens and get the latest model, or to replace an old lens that's your most use lens with the most recent model, but for me, with the D700, primes are just for getting about with a bit less weight than a zoom, and getting a bit more creative. I can't see myself ever splurging on one of the more pricey 1.4 primes (24, 38,85). I'd rather put that money towards a new body (d800) or a trip somewhere.

    In any case 50mm on a d3100 will equal around 75mm. Imho you're better off getting the 35 1.8G first.
     
  14. lysaer

    lysaer Suck my unit! Kirk lazarus (2008)

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    I would recommend a second hand d80, should leave you enough to get a second hand lens as well, something like a sigma 24-70mm

    If you do go for a second hand one just check how many impressions the camera has done

    Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
     
  15. wuyanxu

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    you are right, i've also been considering this 35mm f1.8G. i'll wait until i get the camera next week to get a feel of the focal lengths before investing.

    i'd expect the 35mm would be better because one of major reason buying a large aperture prime lens is for low light photography, that also means in-door shooting with limited space.



    another popular lens i am considering to get: Nikon 55-200. Canon equivalent appears to be same price.
     
  16. andyb123

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    it's worth hunting around for deals, I paid about £320 for my nikon 3100D with lens, and it is a great camera
     
  17. GregTheRotter

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    Gah... @ people calling a D3100 a 3100D..

    Fyi, my d80 is on the bay as we speak.

    @ wyx, hence my point about going for the wider lens first.

    Be sure to get the 55-200 VR if you do. Great lens for money from what ive heard.
     
  18. pyro1son

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    I have got the 500D twin lens kit! And I love it!
     
  19. mayhem

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    The lenses i got were

    Canon Ef 50mm
    Tamron AF 55-200mm 1:4 -5:6 Macro (came with a free UV lens filter as well)

    Cost £100 for both of them. Seemed to me to be a bit of a bargain how ever i have not used either of them yet .... Im still using the lens i got with the Canon 1100D.

    I all so picked up another bargain today a very smooth tripod for £75.00
     
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  20. bleeper

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    I've owned both Nikon and Canon DSLRs and I found the Nikon produced more pleasing shots and didn't need as much post processing. The pros would say this is because the Canon is more accurate, but I found it a chore always having to edit everything.
     

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