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Hardware First Look: ATI Radeon HD 3450, 3470 & 3650

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 23 Jan 2008.

  1. Tim S

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    Wow. All those cards look small! (PCB wise)

    Look like they are all gunning for HTPC or simple desktop use.
     
  3. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    displayport and hdmi are still a big lie. only one of the cards pictured has one of those fancy nextgen connectors....
     
  4. Tim S

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    HDMI is supported through a dongle that is supplied in the box and DisplayPort is added on a per-SKU basis (because of its lack of prominence in the market at the moment) - I'm pretty sure I mentioned both in the article. :worried:
     
  5. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    true,

    but after all that marketing hype surrounding both connectors i was expecting a far more aggressive approach to get them implemented straight on the back of the cards.
     
  6. Tim S

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    sure, but then what happens when someone with a DVI display wants to connect their monitor? Most people have DVI monitors, so it makes sense to keep dual DVI for the time being on the 3650 and DVI/VGA on the lower-end cards because they're taylored more to the value segment. That said, I want to see VGA disappear of these cards and be replaced by either HDMI or DisplayPort.
     
  7. Lukeatluke

    Lukeatluke What's a Dremel?

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    VGA will disappear soon, DVItoVGA connector are available but for the fact more than 95% people are using DVI and VGA displays :cooldude:
     
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    p3n What's a Dremel?

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    95% of statistics are made up on the spot :p
     
  9. Tyinsar

    Tyinsar 6 screens 1 card since Nov 17 2007

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    What I wanted to see was details on the 3870 X2, Tomshardware (I only check it once every couple of weeks) had an article on it and I got to page 5 (of 19) before they pulled it - the title looked promising though.
     
  10. Tim S

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    Yes - it's big and red. ;)
     
  11. Tyinsar

    Tyinsar 6 screens 1 card since Nov 17 2007

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    Cryptic eh? When might that be announced? Or would the NDA not allow you to disclose that? What does the average NDA allow & disallow? - Can you say: if you're under NDA, what you're under NDA for, when the NDA comes off, ...?
     
  12. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    there is a chinese review out on xtremesystems somewhere that shows it outperforms the ultra in everything bar crysis (badly optimised for xfire apparently)
     
  13. naokaji

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    heavily depends on the nda... some nda's even forbid you to mention the existance of the nda, while others say you can only publish preaproved info, some say only pictures no benches or whatever the marketing department of a company comes up with.

    I'm pretty sure that it would be possible to have a dvi and both hdmi and displayport connector on the back of a single slot card.
     
  14. completemadness

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    why do all the slides say "confidential" :eek:
     
  15. Tim S

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    Because they were confidential until AMD removed the embargo today. :)
     
  16. Amon

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    These will work nicely in laptops for sure. Great bargain, too!
     
  17. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    not sure about GDDR2 with 512MB of vRAM..........

    but i want to see how well it performs for price/performance with 9600GT, i need a backup PCIe card, hoping to get a PCIe2.0 card before 9800GTX comes out, so i won't loose so much money. and pricing at £50, looks just to be the perfect card to use as i stepping stone
     
  18. tk421

    tk421 Idiot.

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    that half height 3450 with hdmi really screams "make the gx280 a media server" to me ...
     
  19. Naberius

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    I can understand the purpose of the 3450, it would make a great media centre card, but why the hell are they releasing three low end cards, its hardly like the 3850 and 3870 are top-end cards. They have absolutely nothing at the top end of the performance market.
     
  20. Tyinsar

    Tyinsar 6 screens 1 card since Nov 17 2007

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    Actually if it wasn't for the 8800GT the 3850 & 3870 would be the best price / performance cards - even now they could be, depending on cost, it's a close call.
     
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