Build Advice 1st time builder needs help

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  1. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    Hello and thank you in advance for helping me :)
    Budget: 600-900 pounds at the maximum
    Main uses of intended build: gaming, surfing the web
    Parts required: ssd would be nice if possible on the budget, need a copy of windows,keyboard, mouse and moniter.
    Previous build information (list details of parts): 1st time
    Monitor resolution: 1080p, think it's 1920x1080, I'm no pro :p
    Storage requirements: 500gb, 1tb, 2tb whatevers cheapest
    Will you be overclocking: maybe depends on if the budget allows and if you guys suggest me to
    Any motherboard requirements (no. of USB, Xfire/SLI, fan headers): 4 USB ports would be enough, maybe crossfire/sli as an upgrade later
    Extra information about desired system: have been looking at i5's 2500k and 3570k and 560ti, would it be better to get a 660ti? Would it also be better to get a 2gb graphics card?
     
  2. eagle123

    eagle123 What's a Dremel?

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    First of all look at the scan today only bundle, they sometimes change time to time, idealy i would pay a portion of the money on a good motherboard ram and cpu combo offers, look at either the intel or amd cpu, the cheapest intel cpu will still be good for gaming, do yu need 4 cores, a dual core intel cpu is good enough, for the games, the money saved can be invested in good psu, gfx card, relative few games take advantage of the extra cores, that might change, for my money, i go for a 120gb ssd, corsair force 3, 8 gb ram, 1800mhz, scan might do ssd and ram combos, the idea is that invest in a good motherboard, and chasis and cooling solution, you want to upgrade later on, a budget motherboard will be limited, also dont forget to pay more for a quality psu, that will help you in the long run.

    When yu got the urge to upgrade yu may not need to upgrade the psu and case, look at either corsair or seasonic psu.

    I would for £600 spend on a incomplete pc, paying for a good motherboard, and psu and case, ssd and cpu and save up for the gfx card, as they go down in price when a new generation comes out.

    Also get windows 64 professional retail, as you can use the op system 3 times if yu change motherboards, the oem doesnt let you.

    I built my pc last year, piece by piece, here are the specs

    cpu intel 2600k, retail,
    motherboard, gigabyte ud7 z68
    ssd corsair force 3 120g
    storage drives 1 tb western digital black sata 3 and 1 tb samsung spinpoint f3 sata 2
    gpu ati 6990
    case corsair obsidian 650d
    ram corsair xms3 8 gb 1800mhz
    cooler corsair h70
    keyboard razer ultimate
    mouse roccat kone +
    monitor asus p238q ipl 23 inches
    sound corsair sp2500
    operating system windows retail

    total spent over £2500

    windows overall experience 7.6 everything 7.9

    Self built
     
  3. mattyh1995

    mattyh1995 Minimodder

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    http://www.scan.co.uk/savedbasket/bdbea266e4004c8b8ef84ae6249651a2 - £750


    I'd buy this if I were you with that budget. Should perform more than satisfactory in near enough every game around.

    If you want to overclock, swap the CPU to this;
    http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/cpus-intel/core-i5-socket-1155-(ivy-bridge)

    Cooler to this;
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/be-q...-cooler-with-120mm-silent-wings-pwm-quiet-fan

    Motherboard to this;
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus...ta-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-dvi-d-hdmi-d-sub-(vga)-


    With them changes it would come to around £780. All depends on whether you wish to overclock. Plus if you want to use your max budget, you can improve the GPU to a GTX 670.

    Also, a 2GB graphics card isn't essential but I do notice my 1.5GB card being maxed out in the likes of Battlefield 3, and I run at 1080p also.

    EDIT: It seems I overlooked your SSD wishes. I'd recommend a 128GB Samsung 830;
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128g...re-mcx-nand-flash-read-520mb-s-write-320mb-s-

    With the SSD, the totals come to;
    £830 without overclocking
    £860 with overclocking

    EDIT 2: Seems I can't read. You need windows, monitor, keyboard and mouse.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/savedbasket/82b7e9a24ed9417a8a0408e08d7c4180

    This costs £833 leaving some room for improvement if need be.

    Hope this helps :D
     
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  4. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    Are you saying you've got monitor, but not sure of resolution, or that you NEED monitor, OS, keyboard/mouse. If you need monitor, budget is a bit tighter. You may as well have facility to OC, that doesn't add much, but you may have to compromise on graphics card, or go slightly over budget, or do without SSD.
     
  5. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    Thank you for your replies, what size and make moniter do you suggest?
     
  6. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    I don't mind going slightly Over budget. Would it be sensible to wait until the 550/560ti's come down in price? I don't mind waiting till October/December as I will have more money then
     
  7. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    I need a Monitor, a copy of windows,keyboard and mouse. Are the gaming mouse and keyboard worth it? I may buy cheap ones and get better quality ones later on
     
  8. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    The possible drawback, with the 560Ti, is that I hear it's due to be discontinued, shortly, which would be an issue, if you want to SLi, in the future. You could swap out to the 660Ti, would push your budget to limit. They are possibly a bit over-priced, and MAY come down a bit. If £20/£30 cheaper, they would be good "bang for your buck"
    An alternative approach, if you don't mind "pushing" budget, a bit, would be to use i5 Ivybridge processor, and z77 motherboard, which would give you a decent, all round boost.
     
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  9. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    Can you not sli with the 660ti's ? Would it be a good idea to get a higher watt psu, to be able to upgrade later on?
     
  10. mattyh1995

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    If you look at my post, it has a decent PC with a HD 6870 (GTX 560 equivalent) including a monitor which is 1080p and decent (It's the one I have, and it's on sale I think) and a gaming keyboard and one of the best low budget gaming mouses I've come across in a while.
     
  11. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    mattyh1995 has put together a decent system within your stated budget. Because you said you could increase spend, a bit, I suggested a couple of options, to increase power, if you push budget, slightly. Trouble is, there's always something better, for a bit more. It's a case of "drawing a line in the sand", and saying this much and no more. Otherwise, you'll soon find you're at £1500, or more. If you want something really good, now, and the ability to expand further, in the future, then you need to set a budget of £1200/1300, then your "wish list" can be met. Remember, you were the one who said £900, and no more, in the first place.
     
  12. Wes16dodd

    Wes16dodd What's a Dremel?

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    I can't see the saved basket on scan?
     
  13. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    You CAN SLi the 660Ti, in fact, from benchmarks, two, in SLi, look quite good. There's no point to SLi, though, unless you are having a multi-monitor set-up, or, (to a lesser extent) a large high res monitor. To "prepare" for SLi, you need the right mobo, case/vent, and mobo. It's pointless spending money on that, unless there is, at least, a strong possibility that you WILL upgrade, in the near future.
    The Scan "basket" has disappeared (probably overwritten), but, whilst that was a good build, for the original ideas, the "goalposts" have moved, a bit, and it would probably need a revamp, anyway.
    If you decide where you want to go, with an adequate budget (and stick to it), a system can be put together, FOR THAT. As I said before, "what ifs" can go for ever.
     

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