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News Western Digital adds SATA 6Gbps to all VelociRaptors

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 26 Jul 2011.

  1. arcticstoat

    arcticstoat Minimodder

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  2. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Pointless feature is pointless.
     
  3. fuus

    fuus Misses Rep Bombs

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    Jump boat, before you sink entirely!
     
  4. Farting Bob

    Farting Bob What's a Dremel?

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    These will almost cetainly be tyhe last raptors we see. By the time they make a 3rd gen of them SSD's should be almost the same price (for a reasonable size which i consider to be 128GB minimum)
     
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    tonyd223 king of nothing

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    Hybrid HDD and SSD for the (short term) win - go Silverstone!
     
  6. Venares

    Venares What's a Dremel?

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    The Raptors have had there day, just let them die already.
     
  7. Floyd

    Floyd Wire Twister

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    Just like how I shoved my old 150gig Raptor in the parts bin in favor for a new 1TB drive.
    The Raptor was LOUD and just as fast as my 1TB drive.
     
  8. azazel1024

    azazel1024 What's a Dremel?

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    Are the 150 and 300GB drives also upping the areal density to what the 450 and 600GB drives are? So that they'll be single platter single head and single platter dual head drives now? Because if that is the case and the 150 and 300 have similar sequential and IOPS numbers to the 450 and 600GB drives as a result of this, that is a good move.

    If not its a waste. The "old" 150 and 300GB drives aren't any faster than new 7200rpm 3.5" disks for sequential (still better IOPS). The 450 and 600GB velociraptors are a fair amount faster than most all 7200rpm 3.5" disks, but even then it isn't that radical an advantage.

    As pointed out, with SSD getting cheaper Velociraptors just don't seem to make sense anymore.

    My next machine I plan on a 120GB SSD for boot and most apps and then storage is going to be a pair of 640GB 7200rpm 2.5" disks in RAID0 with a 2TB (or 3TB) 5400rpm disk for bulk storage. I don't need IOPS performance for anything but my boot and app disk (the SSD) and the RAID'd 2.5" disks are going to be for fast, quite, and low power sequential stuff, like image storage for my photography hobby with the big slow disk for things like movies and music.
     
  9. J!n

    J!n That's aperture science

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    I had a 300GB velociraptor and sold it on ebay for about £80 a year ago and brought some nice games have two 500GB Samsung spinpoints. will pick up a SSD in the future.
     
  10. tonyd223

    tonyd223 king of nothing

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    I tried running Vista on raid 0 250Gb drives, first blue screen of death only wrote data to one drive ruining the array, and actually trashing both drives. I think (because of my limited experience) that raid 0 is like Crossfire - it works in theory, but not all the time, and when it doesn't, it's a pain in the ass...
     
  11. schmidtbag

    schmidtbag What's a Dremel?

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    BT, you do realize that even WD's cheap HDD models are now SATA3, right? I'm looking at getting a 500gb Caviar Blue for about $45. I could care less that it's sata3, it's just a good price.
     
  12. Tulatin

    Tulatin The Froggy Poster

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    This reminds me of the ATA66 days, when some drives had trouble saturating the good old ATA bus to begin with.
     
  13. l3v1ck

    l3v1ck Fueling the world, one oil well at a time.

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    A tick box exercise to lure in the ill informed.
     
  14. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Good way to polish a turd. I'll stick with my M4 thanks.
     
  15. will_123

    will_123 Small childs brain in a big body

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    There is definately a need for these drives in production use in servers. Currently we use quite alot of 15,000rpm drives in our servers at my work.
     
  16. TomH

    TomH BELTALOWDA!

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    The Raptors are 10K RPM SATA disks. To my knowledge, there are no 15K RPM SATA disks.

    They're also not SAS, which matters greatly under certain loads (and thus, is far more common in servers).
     
  17. fluxtatic

    fluxtatic What's a Dremel?

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    Yes, and these are neither 15k nor enterprise. Enterprise drives are SAS, as TomH pointed out. What these are is a pointless waste of money now. Never thought they were worth the insane price premium to begin with, tbh.

    Not that SSDs aren't expensive compared to spinning disks, but at least you get a huge boost in performance for the money.
     
  18. slothy89

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    Upgrading the raptors to 15k would've made more sense... If someone has money to blow on a raptor, they'll buy an SSD instead... Pointless..
     
  19. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Can they even saturate a 3Gbps connection?
     
  20. murraynt

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    Not even close..
     
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