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Storage 256gb m4 or 830

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by CrapBag, 8 Jun 2012.

  1. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    I wish to upgrade my 128gb C300 to either the crucial 256gb M4 of the Samsung 830.

    Which is better?

    Also scan have an 830 for £145 but it states it's a notebook kit, the desktop kit is massively dearer at £218, is there any difference in the actual ssd or is just the extras you get that makes the price difference (ssd bracket Norton Ghost etc). All the specs for the drives are the same.

    Notebook kit

    Desktop kit
     
  2. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    iirc its simply the added extras that make up the difference in price
    im looking to get one of the above drives as a drive to install all of my games to
     
  3. Arghnews

    Arghnews New Member

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    God that's one hell of a price difference, jesus.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4863/the-samsung-ssd-830-review

    £73 for a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter, lol
     
  4. rollo

    rollo Well-Known Member

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    Whatever is cheapest at time of purchase as they are both highly recommendable drives

    If you buy oem version buy it

    Retail packaging contains a sata lead for £10-15 extra usually
     
  5. Jackypoos

    Jackypoos Will it blend?

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    I paid £190 for my 830 three weeks ago! Jeez, that's quite a price drop.
     
  6. PocketDemon

    PocketDemon New Member

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    Definitely the 830 - faster irl, superior nand, much better in non-trim environments, etc...

    With prices as they are atm, unless you have a some very specific requirements it's by far the best value for money... ...whilst the V4 is faster & the toggle nand SF's have better tech (assuming they work with your kit), they're far more expensive.

    As mentioned in a different thread, i ordered a pair for roughly the same cost (after cashback) from eBuyer on Thursday (Scan do not like me for insisting on them paying the return postage on a faulty motherboard a few years ago), though they've upped the price since then.
     
  7. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    Good I made the right choice then.

    Got one coming on Monday :)

    £145 score.......................
     
  8. rollo

    rollo Well-Known Member

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    Ocz agility 256 gb (3 version ) on scan at £140

    Ssd prices tumbling at speed
     
  9. PocketDemon

    PocketDemon New Member

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    Much slower d.t. using async nand...
     
  10. Arghnews

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    And it's only 240gb remember! :)
     
  11. PocketDemon

    PocketDemon New Member

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    Well, the 240GB SFs have a formatted capacity of ~223.57GB... ...whilst the 256GB 830 has ~238.47GB.

    (the difference being d.t. the SFs having raise which provides greater protection from nand failure - both having 256GB of nand)


    Then Samsung do recommed at least 7-10% is added as extra OP...

    (taking them down to between ~221.78 & ~214.62GB)

    ...though, esp if you're doing anything particularly clever, this really should be upped with any SSD.

    (unless you're using it for effectively static data)


    Personally, i'll be formatting to no more than ~184GB each (roughly the 'magical 28% total OP level') - though i haven't quite decided whether to stick them in R0 or not yet...
     
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  12. Harlequin

    Harlequin Well-Known Member

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    funny thing is ocuk have a plextor drive for just over £100 for 256gb
     
  13. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    I hate having to OP ssd's it seems like such a waste of space, I understand the reasoning behind it and will do it for my 830 as I have done for my current C300 but it still annoys me.
     
  14. PocketDemon

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    The PX-256M2S is noticably slower than the 830 though...

    Whilst AS-SSD doesn't give anything like a complete overview of things (given that it's very limited in its testing), *a* quick comparison is shown by comparing this to this...

    ...or, indeed, on the ocuk forum here.

    Then it appears to use sync rather than toggle nand (there are some sites which claim that the model used toggle but that appears to be the M2P based on Plextor's own site)...

    [Edit]

    On the Plextor site it explicitly states that the M2P uses toggle nand...

    whereas this is the equivalent archived page for the M2S that doesn't.

    [End Edit]

    ...& it's not 'just over £100' - it's £109.99 plus postage - the cheapest option being £7.25, so £117.24 all in.


    Anyway, at just under £147, the 256GB 830 is obviously almost £30 more expensive, but you get what you pay for in life...


    Well you don't *have* to... ...it's just better to do so.

    Kind of like only using ~85% of a HDD (unless it's only for long term storage) d.t. fragmentation issues slowing things down...

    Tbh, if the space is so tight that there isn't room have a decent amount of free space & OP (except for effectively static storage uses) then people are buying SSDs that are too small.
     
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  15. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    I don't use all the space on my 128gb ssd now so 256 even with the loss of say 50gb is going to be plenty of me now.

    I am selective with what games I have on it but now I have the extra space all my currently being played games will be installed on the 830 instead of having to put a few on my hdd.
     
  16. PocketDemon

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    Sorry - i wasn't suggesting that you were deliberately buying SSDs that were too small... ...simply making a general comment.
     
  17. CrapBag

    CrapBag Well-Known Member

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    Nah didn't take it that way.

    Just chit chatting :)
     
  18. PocketDemon

    PocketDemon New Member

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    Cool. :)
     
  19. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Well pleased with my 830. Seems rock solid.

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Harlequin

    Harlequin Well-Known Member

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    Its easy to get free shipping from ocuk , just spam there form for a day ( same as scan etc)
     

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