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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by jrs77, 11 Feb 2015.

  1. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Where did he say "way more powerful?" Nowhere that I can see.

    Sure. Intel may slack behind on graphics... but at least they know how to build a CPU. ;)

    Okay, let's not turn this into an Intel vs AMD thread. It's about Broadwell and Skylake, not how good one or the other is.
     
  2. Harlequin

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    what good is an intel cpu when I can build an entire APU based pc for the price of one of those `uber` intel cpu`s??
     
  3. Harlequin

    Harlequin Modder

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    if cpu performance is your top metric - why are you not using X99??

    being hampered by a lowly quad core - would never ever do ; that's if you are a professional.....


    rumour mill - only 2 cpu`s for desktop for broadwell anyway before it goes EOL and replaced by skylake
     
  4. Yadda

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    I appreciate that AMD's iGPU may be more powerful than Intel's integrated graphics, but shouldn't the primary concern with regards to processors be their processing capability?

    Those who don't need the extra grunt offered by the Intel processors, or would benefit more from a stronger iGPU instead, or would rather save some cash, can always choose to opt for an AMD processor instead (and there's nothing wrong with that - "horses for courses" after all).
     
  5. Yadda

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    So as a professional, choosing the 7850K would actually end up costing you more than the Broadwell.
     
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  6. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    I think they're chancing their arm at $500.
     
  7. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Well, if it is that high... it seems stupid to have a Hex at £280 (X99) and a quad at £350.

    I know it's Intel, but they're not that foolish.
     
  8. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    The odd thing is there are listings for Skylake showing it's going to be cheaper than Broadwell. :confused:
     
  9. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Well, the overclocker in me just wants one to see how they do on LN2. They should have slight IPC improvements too, which is always a win in my books.

    I've not had one CPU worth putting under the cold from the Haswell i7 range, so it's time for a change. I've had seven out of eight CPUs scale identically with voltage which is just plain annoying. One of them was supposedly a golden batch, but it went back to Intel before I froze it.
     
  10. IvanIvanovich

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    There will be some Skylake parts with the successor to Iris Pro, GT4e which also comes with on chip edram cache.
    If I were interested in such things... I would probably just go for a thin itx board with a relevant performance bga part. If you want it nice and tiny with good performance it's pretty much the way to go. It's not like cpu upgrades even matter on older boards, as we are actually getting motherboard chipset updates that make the upgrade more worthwhile than cpu power these days.
    Which is exactly why I will be waiting for Skylake E before even thinking about another update.
     
  11. IvanIvanovich

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    Depending on which sources, I have seen some listed under 'S' for LGA 65w quad with GT4e. The LGA parts will only have 64MB of edram though, not 128MB like the BGA parts. There are also several LGA models listed with GT3e / GT3. There are tons of sources stating this stuff, of course still nothing 'official' from intel though.
     
  12. TheMadDutchDude

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    I guess we shall find out towards the end of the year. :D
     
  13. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Flagship Intel Skylake-S Core i7-6700K CPU benchmarked
    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/flagship-intel-skylake-s-core-i7-6700k-cpu-benchmarked.html
    Even though these are nothing more than rumours, if they turn out to be accurate I'm going to be very disappointed.
     
  14. damien c

    damien c Mad FPS Gamer

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    This is the problem with having no competition, Intel can release CPU's with barely any improvements in performance and basically get away with it.

    We need AMD to start to compete with Intel at the mid to high end for things other than gaming.
     
  15. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    So ~5% improvement in performance, for less power and at a lower clock speed, pretty much as expected. What's disappointing is it's only a 5% performance boost over Haswell/Devils Canyon, was expecting it to be a 5% bump over Broadwell [which in turn I'd expect to be ~5% faster than Haswell]
     
  16. GuilleAcoustic

    GuilleAcoustic Ook ? Ook !

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    Damned, that's not impressive considering it has an higher TDP (95W vs 88W).

    They both run at 4.0GHZ, only the turbo frequency is slower (4.2GHz vs 4.4GHz). Also, the new CPU has a 95W TDP while the 4790K has a TDP of 88W.
     
  17. TheMadDutchDude

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    Hmm. It couldn't possibly be that the iGPU takes more power... come on guys. They're still sub 100w compared to AMD at >200w at stock.
     
  18. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    I sit corrected on the TDP, but most of those benchmark task would've been run at the turbo speed.

    But the fact the TDP is higher makes it look rather... meh... relative to haswell... The cynic in me thinks this is why they've all but not bothered with Broadwell desktop parts...
     
  19. TheMadDutchDude

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    They haven't come because they've had massive production issues.
     
  20. GuilleAcoustic

    GuilleAcoustic Ook ? Ook !

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    Yup, but that's not what I expect from a new lineup. I'm glad I didn't take a Z97 chipset and whent for a cheaper Z87 ... won't change my i5-4770 before 15 years at the rate Intel CPU's are improving.
     

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