3200 Nightmare

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  1. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    okay this just confuses the !@#@ out of me, my brother upgraded his processer and mobo because of a lightning storm that fried his mobo and he gave the proc to me cause if it still worked it was better than mine, its a 3200 barton core 2.2 ghz AMD. and well..its not fried cause im typing you right now but i get an error in my bios when i load saying that my cpu was unproperly shut down so that the cpu is running in safe mode speed please change the correct speed in the bios, well i can see that its running alot slower cuase im running at 1.1 ghz right now which is half the normal clock speed. what the heck do i do!!!??? can a proc be half fried??? im just confused, oh and ive flashed my bios to the newest verision my mobo offers, Asus A7N8X-E deluxe with a Nforce 2 chipset is my board.

    so please help me this is so confusing i really want this proc to work cause it kicks the crap out of my 2000+
     
  2. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    omg!???? its running at 1.8 ghz now????? lol!!! wth im so freakin confused
     
  3. Pygo

    Pygo Rick Relixed

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    If you are getting those speeds from right clocking on "My Computer" and then hitting properties, they are usually wrong. The clock speed changes according to what speedstep wants to change them to. I found this as well on many athlon 64 desktops and laptops. It is not an issue really. The CPU will auto-step up to full speed when needed.

    "You" are typing me?!? :lol:
     
  4. Strategy

    Strategy Banned

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    There is an option in the BIOS to disable speedstep.
     
  5. Sam0r

    Sam0r It's been a while

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    I think the problem here is that you need to reset your bios defaults.

    Do that in the bios, hit the menu item that says 'Load Optimized Defaults'.

    Didn't bother reading past the part where you said you put in a new proc and now it says its running in safe mode.

    I'll tell you why its doing it:

    Basically, AMD processors have locked multipliers, so it will only run at a set speed. Basically, your old processor would've been running at say 1ghz, so the multiplier could've been 10x and to get 1ghz the bus speed (FSB) would've been at 100mhz.

    But, now you've got a different processor in there, say its running at 2.4ghz that'd be 12x multiplier and a bus speed of 200mhz.

    Now, what would happen if you put the 1ghz chip into the system configured for 2.4ghz? Yeah, it wouldn't even post, infact it may even burn the chip if the voltage requirements for the 2.4ghz chip were higer than the 1ghz chip.

    So, the manufacturer's decided to put something in called "Safe Mode". Basically what it does if i remember correctly, is boot the system at the lowest FSB, Multiplier and voltage it can handle. So you end up with an under-clocked system, but at least you haven't fried anything.

    But as I said, if you just go into your bios and select "Load Optimized Defaults" it'll work out what everything needs to be set to for you. Obvously you'll need to save and exit the bios setup utillity for changes to take effect.
     
  6. Austin

    Austin Minimodder

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    :thumb: I'd say it's just because your mobo has realised you changed the CPU and it doesn't know what FSB it's supposed to use, hence it initially uses the lowest which is 100mhz (200FSB). You'll probably find your old CPU used 166mhz (333FSB) which would give 1.8ghz with your CPU's multiplier, it probably used this when you didn't change it when the BIOS reported the 'Safe Mode'. All you need to do is set the FSB to 200mhz (400FSB) with your DDR400-PC3200 RAM running in sync (sometimes called 1:1 or 100% in the BIOS) to get your CPU running normaly; 11x200=2.2ghz (AthlonXP3200+). If you want to ensure it is running perfectly run Prime95's Torture Test for at least an hour or two. So to clarify ...

    11x100=1.1ghz
    11x166=1.8ghz
    11x200=2.2ghz
     
  7. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    thanks sam0r that was really informative but what im starting to believe is that somthing happend to the proc, cause like i said in my first post the machine it was running in was struck by lightning and the mobo was fried, i have set the bios to run defults a couple times and the farthest i can get it to post if i turn on "halt on all errors" in the bios section is just before windows and it will either, freeze and then my moniter will blink like i have no signal or i get a message saying windows is corrupt so i dont know! :p

    Edit: i just saw yours austin i'l take another look at my bios and see what i got, thanks
     
  8. Sam0r

    Sam0r It's been a while

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    If the processor was even slightly damaged by the lightning it wouldn't even post.

    Have you tried turning it off and on again doing what i said? Not resetting defaults, but resetting Optimized Defaults?
     
  9. TX297

    TX297 Hey guys have you heard of seenly?

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    Are you pregnant? You seem to be missing a lot of periods :/
     
  10. mcshaggy

    mcshaggy What's a Dremel?

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    for a small fee of $600 ill come fix it for you, since im local and all ;)
     
  11. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    oh wow...thats not really readable at all...
     
  12. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    these optimized defaults are they somewhere besides the screen where you save your bios configuration
     
  13. Sam0r

    Sam0r It's been a while

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    Here:
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  14. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    In the BIOS, there may be a setting to set AthlonXP 2500+ or 3200+, choose 3200+ (probably in Frequency/Control if anywhere).
     
  15. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    ahhh my bios suck compared to those, let me go take a couple pics and you can see what im dealing with, as for now i took austins advice and set my fsb spread spectrum to 100% but the problem is i cant run that with a 200mhz bus it crashed justbefore it loaded windows everytime but when i set the fsb to 166mhz with a fsb spread spectrum at 100% it loaded with a clockspeed of 1.82 like before, my cpu multiplier is at 11 should i try and raise that too?
     
  16. Sam0r

    Sam0r It's been a while

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    Look around, set your FSB to 200 and your voltage to the max it'll go 1.6v. Ignore the multiplier, no matter what you set it to it'll just go back to 11x.
     
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    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    Sam0r It's been a while

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    Top picture, what you've selected, change it to 200 mhz.
     
  19. Austin

    Austin Minimodder

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    :jawdrop: No no no! 'Spread Spectrum' is useless in the home and will often destabalise your computer, leave it OFF. All you need to do is set the FSB to 200mhz (aka 400FSB). That's called "CPU External Freq. (Mhz)" in your BIOS. The only other thing to check is the memory speed called "Memory Frequency" in your BIOS (5 below the 'CPU External Freq'). It's currently set to Auto which is fine but you always want to run this equal to your FSB so choose DDR400-PC3200, 1:1 or 100% (all notations for the same thing).
     
  20. apnaumann

    apnaumann What's a Dremel?

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    yeah ive tried 200mhz = no boot for whatever reason i dont know, i get all the way through the post up too where xp pro loads but it just sits at a blank screen then my moniter light starts blinking like there is not connectivity
     

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