ok i have not used water cooling my self yet. but im getting sick of my room's getting to hot and all the fan's we have 3 computers in one small room.. its hot and loud. the idea is. use my cold water from my well to cool a BIG tank of water. the tap water is about 45F. use some sort of heat transfer to cool the tank water with my tap water but not mix the 2. then have one large pump pumping 4 line's to each computer. cooling the CPU GPU and chip set. and maybe the HD's and PSU. then a line going back to the tank. if the heat transfer only works when the water is running. then the big tank should be enough to keep cool for 10 hours well we sleep? right? the computers will be on all night... but idle. will this tank be enough mass? ill check its gallons tomorrow. its 5 feet tall and 2 feet side to side. its a old water tank for the house.. we now use a diff one when we got out well redone. . the big queson is will 1 pump work with 4 computers?
You'd need an absolutely massive pump to cool what you're suggesting but I think it could be done with very careful planning. You'll have to work out the flow you require per computer, head height etc. Though you probably know this already! One thing I can think of is that with all those splits in the flow (especially if you're cooling all your rigs' CPUs, GPUs, PSUs, Chipsets and HDDs) there will be a lot of flow resistance, even if you use Y pieces to split the flow. This will produce LOTS of backpressure for the pump to cope with - it's gonna have to be real powerful so choose carefully! Also do you really want to have the fate of 4 machines resting on one pump? If you have a faliure can you afford to replace large amounts of hardware? I'm note sure about res volume to cooling power as I've only got experience with rads - are you having a recirculating loop that actually cools the res water as well as the loop for your rigs? maybe you could do that? Just a thought Good luck with the project anyhow!
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i know someone who did something like this but for only 1 pc, what he did was used a closed loop system with a radioator but as his pc room as top floor near the cold water tank he ran piping up through the celing to the cold water tank & put the radiator in the tankright by the main fillup so the water was always cirulating over the res (he has lots of brothers & sisters whech means @ least 1 tap onever 10mins) he says it is fanastic as a cooling method & as the radiator is copper he doesent have to worry about poisoning hisfamly as waterpipes are copper
Couldn't of said it better meself If you wanted to cool that water you would need a rad in between each computer, so that your not moving warm water to the 2nd, 3rd, etc.. and how big is that pump? Must be the size of a car Oh btw...welcome to the forums dood! Peeps here are very friendly and helpful..enjoy your stay Oh and welcome Draxin
my idea was use a HUGE pump... not one ment for a watter cooling. maybe a old well pump but slow it down. but that has like 2" pimp comeing from it. so my idea was split it thare so the heat from one PC dose not go to the 2nd.. it gose back to the tank. i was thinking everyone share the same water. the big tank would be full of the cold computer water. then have some way of cooling the tank water. (havent figed this out yet) one idea is to cut the top of the tank off and put a big coyal of pipe inside the tank. and run cold water threw it. 2nd idea is to use a heat tranfrer thing like used in a hot water heater. IE the hot water isnt the water you drink it only heats the water you drink. i see your pount about relying on the pump for 4 computers. hrmm. i think ill go with a nice pump like for a well or a pool pump or something ment to run all day... then set up a sensor to turn off the computers when the pump die's.. my idea HAD NO rad's. just the vary cold water from my well. thanks guys. for the welcome. i thoght this would be a good place to work out the problems in my idea's and see what other ppl thoght.
oh and last thing.. what size pipe? size from pump to PC... then size to water blocks? size of befor the T's ? size after? this is one area im not well read in
I didn't mean a pump for watercooling - even the mighty Eheim 1060 couldn't cope with what you've got planned ! As for hoses, large as possible M8, I reckon if you put a large bore (1", maybe more? ) hose into a manifold which then has smaller bore supply hoses to each PC that would probly be the easiest and most efficient way of plumbing? Still doesn't get rid of the backpressure problem though - better make sure you have v.strong hose but more importantly hose clips which can cope with that pressure ... *sound of swearing as fountain floods house * Even though you're not intending to use a w/c pump and one that's designed to run all day, I'd still recommend that you use two just as insurance kinda :dude: I reckon you're plan to use a submerged copper coil to cool the res is a good idea but you'd be trying to cool a large volume of water with a smaller flowing one. Maybe it would be better if the res was the 'non-coolant' water and the actual pc coolant ran through a coil (or series of coils ) - just might be more efficient to use the large volume of cold water to cool a smaller volume of colant? you could then have a smaller (say 10-20 litre) res. for the coolant somewhere accesible so you can top it up or drain the system for maintenance more easily? Again, though, I'm just thinkin' on my feet here as I've only read about projects like this (can't afford to cut huge holes in the wall of my house ). Hope my rambling has been useful Oh, and thanks for the complement scopEdog ... and welcome Draxin :dude:
Oh, for the actual inside rig plumbling, use 1/2" - or you could run a dual gauge system like me - CPU 1/2" GPU etc. 3/8" Use Tygon tubing if ya can - lasts ages so I believe. If that's too expensive use silicon. Both of these will not age or become brittle over time to the same extent as normal PVC.
To solve the problem of backpressure, i've read that some guys say an airtrap reduces it a bit. Not sure if it does but maybe you could look into it to be on the safe side. One for each pc.. and relix...best friend?!?!!
why is back pressure a problem? the pipe's can take it.. the pump could take it. ?? i think its a 50 gallon tank.. my water is 10c... 50F.. im thinking about putin a small rad or something in my case to COOL the air in the case.. maybe put a sinlent slow fan to move the air.
ok this might be a stupid idea but why not stick with the idea of a larg tank, only make it non-coolent, and submerge the Rad in that, so your basicaly water cooling your water cooler, LOL, now thats a first i think.i would think the heat distorbution of the rad combined with the large volume of water around the rad would increase proformance, hell with the lagr RAD dunk tank outsied the computer maybe find a way to wire up a series of Pelts to the large volume but instead of running it off a PSU wire it up so you can just plug it into the wall sorry if this is a stupid idea but thinking on no sleep for 3 dats makes one think of odd things.
Draxin - not a stupid idea at all - I suggested something similar further back in this post with copper coils.... I think your submerged rad idea would work very very well - just need to make sure there's some water flow around the rad and away it'd go! Should be able to cool one heck of a heat load if a massive rad were used :dude:
thanks guys im still working out my plan ok how's this new idea. run ALL the house water threw a larg RAD and put the Rad in a talk of coolent. laying flat. have the cooling go back in on the top and suck the coolent out at the botem.. so the coolent flows threw the rad. after a few houres the coolent should be as cold as the water.. but over night when the house is not useing water how much will the coolent heat up? computers should be close to idle?? how long would it take to heat up a 50 galon oil drumb full of coolent? with 4 computers conected runing idle? how about if i add a 2nd oil drumb? total of 100 galon tanks pluss the coolent in the pipes.
