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A challenge: Compile the best PC for doom 3 and halflife 2 for under £1700!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Maniac618, 22 Aug 2004.

  1. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    Your time starts now. List as much as possible and the place to get the stuff from (preferably from a company that makes it for you too, and from a UK company) :D

    The winner might get £10 if they help me so much that I buy it. :worried: :rock:

    Edit: this needs to include a monitor, mouse and keyboard.
     
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  2. Spiral Architect

    Spiral Architect Cooked on Phonics

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    A64 for a start.
     
  3. Highland3r

    Highland3r Minimodder

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    One problem, Doom3 and HL2 plays better on either ATI or Nvidia cards....

    Anyways, spec along the lines of:
    3800+ A64 s 939,
    not sure mobo wise, iirc the Epox and Asus/abit boards are what to look for
    1gb Corsair XL 3200 (or EB 3500 if you wanna overclock)
    160gb HDD
    Nvidia 6800 GT OR ATI X800pro (both are stonking cards, v fast, GT would be personal prefernce)
    Nice case, and 520 w antec psu
    17" LG tft
    keyboard and mouse to suit.

    No prices, but thats the kinda spec you can expect for ~ 12-1500 quid...
     
  4. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    what's the difference between the AMD 64 53 and the normal AMD 64s?
     
  5. DanMcr

    DanMcr What's a Dremel?

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    Deffo 939 A64.

    Ditch the 3800 and go for the 3500. Its about half the price for one thing. Spend the money saved on better vid card. Ati X800XT. Will benefit doom3 and halflife2 better than the processor. Im fairly confident that my 2700 tbred would handle doom3 on full settings with a decent vid card. Its already at 1280x1024 on a 9800pro withouth AA or AF, and only shadows are turned off. (Which doesnt make a blind bit of difference in image quality imo)

    These are the prices ive found:

    Mobo: Asus A8V deluxe 939 (K8T800) = £90
    CPU: Althon 64 3500+ 939 = 241.99
    Memory: Corsair 1gb TwinX - XMS3200XLpro (2x512mb) = 220.84
    Vid Card: Asus AX800XT = £375
    £100 for a case
    17" TFT LG Flatron L1710B = £257.27 (Amazing monitor, had mine a couple of weeks now, no ghosting at all. Looks lovely at 1280x1024.
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX. = £71.68

    Grand Total: £1256.78 (Or thereabouts) :D

    If you can afford it, then why not go for the 3800+ instead of the 3500+. £445.33. But imho, if your gonna splash out that money on a cpu, you might aswell pay the extra 70 odd quid for the fx53 (939).
     
  6. tmod

    tmod What's a Dremel?

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    You need to narrow it down some. Basically, answer this question: are you a hardware enthusiast, or do you just want a fast gaming rig? Will you be overclocking and pushing your system to its limits, upgrading as often as possible? Unless you're an enthusiast, and 3DMark points and an undetectable amount of frames matter to you, you're better off not spending the extra money for ultra high end components if what you want is simply a good gaming computer.
     
  7. slater

    slater Mummy Says Im Special

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    I agree if i was you i would save a little on main componants so you can afford things like 19"+ LCDs and Cordless/optical mice. These kind of thing make a much bigger differance to your playing experiance than the differance between a x800pro and x800xt.

    (i would consider a raptor hdd aswell, should cut loading times a bit :thumb: )
     
  8. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    Well, I wouldn't be updating it every month, maybe once a year, and that would probably only be a graphics card I'd be changing. I wouldn't be attempting overclocking but might do if software came with it to do so, (for example the radeon 9600xt i have at the moment).

    It has to last me pretty much 3 years without updating the processor and ram if possible.
     
  9. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    which site did you configure that at?
     
  10. Highland3r

    Highland3r Minimodder

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    The only problem with getting a slower CPU is the bottleneck its going to have on the graphics card... A 3500 bottlenecked a X800 (pro IIRC)
     
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    sadffffff What's a Dremel?

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    i would personally forget the idea of getting a lcd monitor and get a huge CRT with high resolution support. If you're getting such a wonderous vid card/entire setup, then why not get a monitor that you can actually make use of the high resolutions it's capable of? I personally cant stand looking at lcd monitors, they change slightly from every angle.

    personally I'd go for a 21" trinitron flat screen monitor with a nice high max res of 2048x1536 and still end up paying less than a lcd would cost. But thats only if you have the desk space for one.
     
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    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    seriously??? :jawdrop:

    What doesn't bottleneck that card then?
     
  13. MrWillyWonka

    MrWillyWonka Chocolate computers galore!

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    Exactly what I was gonna say, I'm looking into buying these stuff - my sig
     
  14. Highland3r

    Highland3r Minimodder

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    Erm, well the top benchers are still finding bottlenecks @ over 3ghz on AMD, and 4 on Intel machines. This is with clocked GFX as well though.
    Around the FX53 mark should be enough to reduce the bottleneck to pretty much nothing....
     
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    ICDragon What's a Dremel?

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    I think the 3800+ wouldn't have hardly any bottlenecking.
     
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    I see...I'd recommend, in that case getting a Socket 939 processor, because you probably won't be seeing PCI Express on an Socket 754 boards. Get a X800/6800 for now (AGP), then you'll be able to move to a PCI Express motherboard and PCI Express video card when you upgrade in a year or so, but still be able to use the same processor and RAM. In a year, an X800 will still net you a fair chunk of change, especially coupled with the mobo, so you should be OK.

    All this is IMO, of course. If the Nvidia 6600GT hits the market soon (it is PCI Express), then I'd get that and a PCI Express motherboard so your upgrade path is a bit easier in the future.

    As I think someone mentioned, for a gaming computer, your money is just as well spent on a good, big CRT monitor and a quality audio setup as it is on a top-end processor.

    I wouldn't call it a bottleneck - maybe more like it doesn't maximize its peformance. It isn't like the X800 wouldn't outpeform the 9800, even on a slow (bottlenecking) processor.
     
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    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    Would a AMD 64 3500+ 939 out perform my Pentium 4 2.0GHz (from 2001 or 2002) when using applications such as 3D studio max?
     
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    ICDragon What's a Dremel?

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    lol yes... a 3500+ will outperform a Pentium 3.2, and is probably closest matched to a 3.4 however with many gaming benchmarks (as AMD is better there) it even outperforms the 3.2 EE

    for benching check out Toms Hardware 939 showdown
     

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