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A challenge: Compile the best PC for doom 3 and halflife 2 for under £1700!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Maniac618, 22 Aug 2004.

  1. tmod

    tmod What's a Dremel?

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    I own them (the Altec Lansings). I haven't had a 5.1 setup before this, so I can't really compare them to anything, however I like them. They sound pretty good, and I'm sure would sound a lot better if I had a better soundcard.
     
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    zapf What's a Dremel?

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    are you talking about the altec lansings?
     
  3. Heavytank2

    Heavytank2 What's a Dremel?

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    Altec has never done me wrong. They don't have window vibrating power thump, but, they are crystal clear to me. (2.1 ACS33)
     
  4. DanMcr

    DanMcr What's a Dremel?

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    Maniac, why not get a sata hard drive? If anything to help with the cable management.
     
  5. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    Well, what's the difference in terms of performance and could you point me in the right direction of one on microdirect.co.uk?

    Oh and in response to the speaker question, I'm just going to use my old 1997 Altec Lansing stereo speakers, they did the job then, and I'm sure they will now too. :worried:

    Edit:

    extra processor question....

    What is an AMD "NEWCASTLE" 64 3500+ compared to one without newcastle in the name? Also is there another version of the 3500+ apart from a 512k L2 cache model, just in case?!?!
     
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    As far as I know all the socket 939 processors (apart from the FX series) have 512kb cache.
     
  7. ErisDS

    ErisDS What's a Dremel?

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    argh... the whole x800 pro vs 6800gt has done my nut

    sooooo im gonna buythe 6800 ultra, its available unlike the xt and its a bloody class card...


    im gonna get the xfx card, it runs:
    - 425-450MHz Core Engine Clock speed
    - 256MB 1200MHz high speed DDR3 memory

    cant be bad can it..
    at the end of the day... trying to figure which is best has made my head ache... what does it matter... its gonna be a good card nmw
     
  8. tmod

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    Hey ErisDS, are you getting the MSI K8N Neo2 for your setup?
     
  9. Maniac618

    Maniac618 What's a Dremel?

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    ErisDS the BFG 6800 GT OC that I'm getting apparently overclocks to Ultra speeds and slightly higher. You'd save a lot of money.
     
  10. Heavytank2

    Heavytank2 What's a Dremel?

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    Im with this guy. Ultra/GT speeds are so close its not even worth getting an ultra to me, unless you refuse to OC. Which I wouldn't hold against you, since my Ti-200 blew up to OCing. (Not wild OC either)
     
  11. DanMcr

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    http://www.microdirect.co.uk/productlister.aspx?GroupID=205

    The SATA bus speed is rated at 150mb/s as opposed to your ata100 of 100mb/s.

    But in reality, no hardrive will saturate the bus on a single user machine.

    Tha advantages are:

    Tiny data cable. (comparable to a USB cable i suppose)
    Hotswappable.
    Comparable price.

    Also, the WD raptor 74GB 10000rpm drive is bloody good. But you dont get alot of space for your cash. Weigh up what you want.
    The normal 7200rpm drives are around the £55-£60 for a 120gb.
    Have a scan through www.storagereview.com
     
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    Thanks, I've swapped to a Western Digital 200GB SATA 7200rpm 8mb cache. Only £82 :rock:
     
  13. Heavytank2

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    I read up on raptors, for gaming load speed I'd venture to say CPU speed/FSB matters more. It gave a 5 second difference max in UT2004. (anandtech)
     
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    Im all for overclocking its something i really need to get into.

    The fXf 6800 ultra runs at 425/450 clockspeed already but it cant be overclocked.

    The bfg GT card overclocks to 431/424 depending on the game.

    Buying the ultra card is going to send me just £40 over budget, i can afford that.
    Is my £40 really going to waste?

    My plan is to get the asus A8V deluxe the MSI is more expensive and slower according to reviews... my only worry is that i should go for nforce3 chips??
     
  15. tmod

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    Look at this review of Socket 939 motherboards. I don't see the Asus A8V outperforming the K8N Neo2 often there. I'd suggest you read the final words of the review too. Also, what do you mean the XFX 6800Ultra can't be overclocked? :eyebrow:
     
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    Because its already clocked to either 425/450, when a reviewer tried to push it further it crashed.

    Thats just what i read.. of course i can always try and push it a lil further.

    I've read a cpl of reviews and comparisons of the mobos..asus beats msi on ut (my most played game) and its also cheaper. (not that im one for cutting costs).
    I'm still bothered by whether to go for a ultra or GT and overclock..
    which gfx card has given me SUCH a headache :wallbash:
     
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    To be honest: an Ultra is not worth the cost, at all. A GT could even overclock to the clocks that are standard on that XFX. Not to mention how scarce the Ultras are, and the fact that a GT at stock clocks is still uber fast.
     
  19. Heavytank2

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    Thank you! Same goes for XMS vs. Value Select for Gaming... and, I am armed with benchmarks once more!

    http://www.legitreviews.com/reviews/valueselect/4.html

    There is no possible bias here either, same brand, same review.


    This can be said with any "extreme top-end" component... WD Raptors = minus 5 seconds on UT2003 level loading for example. Hardly worth the space/money disadvantages.
     
  20. ErisDS

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    Is the value select overclockable?

    Im enjoying this... really getting into some nitty gritty.. gives me reason to live :rolleyes:

    Hmm GT/ultra... meh... I'll keep looking
     

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