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A discussion about Firefox and browsers in general

Discussion in 'Software' started by yuusou, 2 Dec 2024.

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Whats your browser? Are you planning to move?

  1. Chromium-based and sticking with it

    7 vote(s)
    22.6%
  2. Chromium-based and planning to move to... (state below)

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  3. Firefox and sticking with it

    20 vote(s)
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  4. Firefox and planning to move to... (state below)

    3 vote(s)
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  1. Ice Tea

    Ice Tea Multimodder

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    Fashtech?
     
  2. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Fascist technology. Fashtech. The guy behind it is special, and not a in good way. Keep scrolling until you hit the September follow-up at the bottom...
     
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  3. Ice Tea

    Ice Tea Multimodder

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    I didn't realise you was referring to that incident, i have posted about it in the past, thanks
     
  4. Chin Tablet

    Chin Tablet Minimodder

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    Firefox for me. Just feels less... Intrusive
     
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  5. Flibblebot

    Flibblebot Smile with me

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    And the latest version allows you to block all AI features in the browser, which is a definite plus point for me.
    Of course, I'd rather not have the AI there in the first place...but at least the ability to block is better than having it forced on you whether you want it or not (I'm looking at you, Microsoft)
     
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  6. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    Google is hot garbage now-a-days. I've switched my search engine to noai.duckduckgo.com and, well, it's lackluster at best. It's not entirely their fault. Reddit has an exclusivity deal with Google and it's one of the last remaining places with human-generated content, SOE optimized AI slop dominates the charts. Maybe I've become crap at using search but you have to be _very_ specific and use the absolute correct wording otherwise you get nothing like what you're searching for.

    I'm going to stick with it for a while but honestly AI is looking and feeling more inevitable, this is anxiety inducing.
    I can feel my brain shrinking every time I use AI, I feel my agency, learning capability and critical thinking slipping away all while getting ridiculously angry at just how incompetent AI is.
     
  7. wyx087

    wyx087 Multimodder

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    For searching, I've switched over to search.brave.com. Result seems good enough, similar to Google for well known things. It does surface reddit posts. Unfortunately there's an AI summary at the top I'm not sure how to avoid other than scrolling past.
     
  8. Midlight

    Midlight Modder

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    I don't know if it will remember your selection, but there is a settings menu top right corner of the home page that does have a handy AI toggle.
     
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  9. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    I've used duckduckgo for years now, the first 2-3 pages of results are fine, but after that it doesn't reflect country-specific stuff anymore and goes off track. That's usually enough to get what I need though.
     
  10. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    I jumped from Google to Startpage a while back but got a bit bored so I'm currently on Qwant.

    I think Startpage just anonymises a Google search whereas Qwant has its own index.
     
  11. Ice Tea

    Ice Tea Multimodder

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  12. Nexxo

    Nexxo Rotate Your Owl For Science

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    Aw, Seamonkey gives me the nostalgic vibes. :D

    [​IMG]

    I have been mainly using Edge (because I'm a lazy ass and that's what we used at work) but lately have been looking at Vivaldi and Firefox (again). It's tricky --I want to like Firefox, but I really like the deep levels of customisability of Vivaldi.

    Search engine is DuckDuckGo. I had no problems with Google initially --I knew them from the "don't be evil" days-- but there are too many sponsored links and too much AI to wade through.
     
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  13. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Vivaldi with DuckDuckGo for search, has been working well for me.
     
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  14. Byron C

    Byron C AKA “Sticky Equilibrium” on weekends

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    Google search was once fast, had a clean and simple layout, and was extremely effective at finding information. Now it's festooned with ads disguised as results, links to outright scams in ads, and has been intentionally made worse, because the longer you spend searching for what you want the more opportunity there is to show you ads.

    Google Chrome was once fast, had a clean and simple layout, highly customisable, and extremely lightweight on resources. Now it downloads a 4GB local AI model whether you want it or not (which also re-downloads itself if you delete it from disk), and its plugin system has been intentionally crippled in order to prevent people from protecting themselves against highly invasive surveillance.

    Yeah, I remember when Google was "nice". But they stopped even pretending a very long time ago.
     
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  15. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Bring back Netscape Navigator!
     
  16. Byron C

    Byron C AKA “Sticky Equilibrium” on weekends

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    If you squint hard enough, it never went away :grin:

    What is now Firefox started life as a rewrite of the Netscape Navigator engine, after Netscape went *poof*.
     
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  17. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    That's what SeaMonkey is.
     
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  18. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    See, I always learn something on here

    See I always learn something more on here.

    Is this something you use Gareth?
     
  19. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Not as a daily driver. I mentioned it upthread: it doesn't support all the things whizz-bang modern sites need. There's work ongoing to add what's missing, but it's a small project so slow going.

    I'm definitely keeping my eye on it, though!
     
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  20. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Doh, I'm on hols at the moment and it seems to make my reading skills extremely selective.
     

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