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Watercooling [AF] Andreoid & finnzwerg *highly qualitative watercool tinkering* ----> TONS OF PIX

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Andreoid, 9 Nov 2009.

  1. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

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    wow great work really like how it all comes together and the packaging
     
  2. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    Very interesting thread, thanks for posting this! There's just something inspiring in proper work shops and tools when I have neither myself :D
     
  3. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    atm I don't post this much :(
    Finn takes care at the most necessary in the workshop during the week.
    I am mainly in my home community in Krefeld and in the middle of an exam period.
    Way to making here some new things such as, for example, Set compilations:
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    http://www.anfi-tec.de/Kompatibilitaetsliste.pdf

    Despite that we are both having too much to do much outside of Anfi-tec,
    there are a few small changes not only online.

    Our garage get increases!
    One of my former trainers has remind me in resolutiuon his hobby workshop
    and had sold me its well-preserved Robling lathe:)
    I've came along with a good buddy of me and picked up the lathe with much too small trailer.

    On the ceiling is a chain was fastened to steel beams... the chain was, however,
    hopelessly overwhelmed with the Turn, which we even had to let the air out of the tires.
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    The "Little one" probably weighs as to the 600-700kg.
    Here the car, but .. not yet finished lashed.
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    Our dear neighbor has helped us with his ant to unload.
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    Now the lathe is on a pallet and wait to move into the workshop :)
    Because this must happen before a proper foundation has yet to be cast.
    This requires a bit of wood for a frame
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    Or direct a child's coffin: X
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    Then removed the woodden ground with a circular saw at the appropriate place:
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    Now that's missing is the concrete, but .. that will come when it is a bit more warm.
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    Before coming up questions whether we now are able to produce fittings, ...no!
    At first, the lathe is not yet set up and, secondly, it is conventional
    (ie no CNC machine) for mass production. But I hope that we have a few
    more options when tinkering with things as water coolers.

    btw ...
    in the middle of next week I'll get loan one P55 EVGA Cheesecake
    from the user "fhantastic" from "Forumdeluxx"
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  4. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    now i show you some waterblocks for the EVGA P55 Cheesecake 200

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    the design of the NB / SB cooler at first looked like this
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    required after the first fitting of Plexidummys add another notch
    and I have reduced the engravings somewhat...
    well here you can see why:
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    here he is Finn assembling the cooler:
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    the NB / SB cooler does work like our last MSI 790FX full cover block:
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    (das Bild ist von dem LUXX User Schlingel_INV)
    He uses the thermal conductivity of the copper
    The SB does not have much heat and so a copper bridge is enough.
    the woeld be only space for one channel, what you can see here
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    Then one of the fittings would have to sit between the graphics cards. -.-

    The space for the voltage transformer cooler was not that huge,.. so I had to build up in the air because of the G1/4" connections -.-
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    At least I was able to continue to use often used tops ..
    this not only saves my nerves ^^ furthermore it gives a consistent picture
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    what does EVGA think at the EVGA P55 NB fixings?
    I do not know -.-
    Never seen so many screws in a cooler, ..
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    ******************************************
    here are a few impressions with 13mm Dangerden fittings :)
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    like this picture
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    same in horizontal
    http://www.anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/P55/8.JPG

    et voilà
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    The Voltage Regulator waterblocks probably also fit on the standard EVGA P55 Cheesecake
    who else does have a P55 EVGA Cheesecake can try one's luck ^^ with this http://www.anfi-tec.de/EVGAP55skizze.pdf


    I'll probably need a photo tent, .. terrible dark pictures -.-
    I'm sorry: D

    btw... some more evga wbs,..but these are for an old 780i Cheesecake :)
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  5. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

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    you should read the article on bit-tech which shows you how to take brillent pics of your pc components i think it will help you a lot like it helped me

    but keep the pics coming see you have a few water blocks at aquatuning
     
  6. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    thx ^^

    it is time again for something new from us

    guess what there is new about this image :D ^^
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    exactly the color!
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    after a few tests we can color our copper bottoms fairly uniformly dark
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    it is not really like the deep black of delrin/acetal or the oring
    depending on the light rather a dark gray ...
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    but it harmonizes well with the POM
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    I had unfortunately just make my desk lamp for pictures :(
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    I will do on the weekend times pictures of it on a motherboard
    if you want to see it??!
    otherwise, it want to be said that this is a new block for Gigabyte P55 boards :)
    the new PWM031 water block

    in our shop one can already choose a white cover for the block you wanna order...
    but less than 4% of our customers use want the white tops at their request ...
    do you think it the better choice of colored bottoms than a white cover?
    what do you think of the coloring?
     
  7. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    I LOVE the coloring! Been looking for so long for blocks that have a matte finish but no one does it.

    Exposed copper tarnishes too easily and nickel plating is too shiny for my taste. This is perfect. How did you manage it?
     
  8. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    the black bottom surface is treated chemically with no paint that limit the thermal transfer


    After the chipset coolers, we have now also in the PWM blocks a considerable amount of models.
    Atm we do have 31 different models.

    i have gathered some pwm blocks together:
    f.l.t.r. PWM 031, 030, 024, 023, 021, 015, 014, 013
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    Well these are now a couple of bottoms and all with the same cover...
    if I now overlapping all bottoms I have all the necessary hole spacing:
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    But this sux if i have to mill a new cooler for each new board at a 1 mm difference ...dont you think so too?

    so lets see my Troubleshooting in the 3D CAD:

    with 3 different mounting lashes as in the UCDs
    and 4 mountingholes...
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    The bottom is 13mm wide and the closest chanel in the block
    is flow optimised to reduce the flow resistance

    Here is a sectional view:
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    The top is made of pom/acetal and does have G1/4" windings.
    the overhang is 9mm high, and and makes space for RIO or capacitor components
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    Here a 3D PDF,.to turn, to peek, hide components... ... etc
    but i doesnt cool^^

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    http://www.anfi-tec.de/forenbilder/UCD4PWM.pdf

    now the question...should we keep the old pwm models?
    The UCDs have replaced the old models NBSB almost completely ... and this quite successfully.
    After the success of UCDs, other German manufacturers had attempted to develop universal solutions, too.
    It would not surprise me if, after the launch of this universal PMW block, some German manufacturers will try to develop something like this, too.
     
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  9. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    Could you explain in a little more detail? I'd like to try this myself.

    Keep the old models for the folks that want them? That is, make them only if they are ordered, don't trash the designs.

    Does the new mounting system work fine? Is there a decent amount of pressure on the blocks, and a firm grip on the motherboard?
     
  10. Mechh69

    Mechh69 I think we can make that fit

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    Beautiful work guys IF I can ever convince my wife to let me spend the money on water cooling I may have to contact you about a water block. The quality of your blocks look amazing!
     
  11. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    oh sry forgot the lenght ^^

    the bottom is 82mm x 13mm

    cant translate the prescription in english..
    i think u can find it very easy by using google and search for colouring copper and sulfur

    the the new mounting is approved in our chipset UCD models

    haha... it is always the wifes decision XD
     
  12. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    so you all don't only want to see our waterblocks, .. also the little machine that produce the copper-beautys :D ...
    I had promised you to post the build-report from our CNC with we are spending with very very very much time

    We start with the basic structure:

    A cast mineral with the edge length of 700mm
    (So not as great as it seems :D )
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    The linear rail which we had previously sent to the mineral-cast-manufacturer all were assembled very clean.

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    the ball screws, we have from a CNC forum.
    20mm diameter .. 10 slope
    the linear rails we have bought in ebay.
    we have got the cast as a cadfile from the manufacturer
    I had imported it into my 3Dprogram (Alibre)
    my first try in the cad stuff looks like this:
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    in der cad war ich nun noch nicht weit genug das ich mit großen teilen der cnc anfangen konnte,
    also machte ich kleine notwendige sachen wie die Feingewindemuttern und Lagerblöcke.

    with the help of cad file I wanted to create a safe construction to check the dimensions of the linear rails.
    without the cad workings probably nothing would had worked.
    I wasn't close enough in the cad that I could begin with large parts of the cnc
    So I made some little things,... things that are necessary as fine-thread-nuts and bearing blocks.

    brass Hexagon and a "Trennjäger" saw
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    next steps i did on thos lathe:
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    tools:
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    Core hole drilling
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    Tapping
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    Bevels
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    cutting off
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    almost finished parts
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    Sorry for the bad quality of the pictures ... which were made with the mobile

    soooo we come to the bearing blocks

    I have worked with the Mikron here
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    pre-milling
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    Retaining bars for attaching
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    then drilled the fixing screws for the fixable and movable bearing
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    continueing soon...
     
  13. KrunchR

    KrunchR What's a Dremel?

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    Awesome thread. A little hard to read, but great anyway!
     
  14. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    yeah sorry for my bad english :X
     
  15. bagman

    bagman Minimodder

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    i am going to buy one of your blocks soon as i am going to get a 1156 system and need a new water block they look pretty damn cool
     
  16. SlowMotionSuicide

    SlowMotionSuicide Come Hell or High Water

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    Any chance you guys do custom waterblocks?

    I was stupid enough to get MSI motherboard, as far as I know no one makes mosfet nor chipset blocks for my board.
     
  17. confusis

    confusis Kiwi-modder

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    Yeah I'm looking for a custom block for my dual opteron board! any plans for custom one-offs?
     
  18. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    i think our ucd and ucp models can fit
    http://www.anfi-tec.de/PWMskizze.pdf
    http://www.anfi-tec.de/UCDskizze.pdf
    http://www.anfi-tec.de/UPCskizze.pdf
    2x UPC slim, 1X UCD grande
    http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/manufacturers.php/manufac/142

    so atm we dont have sooo much time for custom blocks...
    our studies and the building of the cnc, all this does not leave
    much time for building and developing waterblocks

    and this here is an tinkerthread... no supporthtread for anfi-tec products..
    so please dont let me get in conflict with the forum rules... cause my anwser
    to your questions can look commercial. so write me a pm,..add me in icq, msn or skype ;)
     
  19. Andreoid

    Andreoid Anfi-tec Staff

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    on it goes with CNC tinkering

    the table was made of two old shelves and a steel L-profile welded together.
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    all visible seams ground over and painted beautifully
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    looking much better
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    The cast mineral was moved out on its palette
    and prepared for the separation of portal and bottom:
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    and then, were the parts apart ..
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    The stand has been prepared for the machine:
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    Here with the later boxes and coolant filters:
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    on the cross bar ...
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    ...was laid a balance sheet (for the thickness of the L-profiles) and some anti-slip mats.
    Please ignore the chaos in our workshop :D
    I need this to keep everything in place in my head XD.
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    the welded tray was laid in...
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    here you can see the outlet:
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    everything in position:
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    It continues with the Z-axis ...
    the first 25mm Bosch Rexroth rail was installed and ...
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    ... adjusted.
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    second rail:
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    This must be precisely!
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    the finished cut to length Z-spindle:
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    looks great with the 4 wagon ... damn solid
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    And here I will get problems with the installation later! -.-
    first the wagons then the spindle? Or first the spindle? Or install all at once?
    Okay ... the next CNC I will construct definitely a different way! :D
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  20. aquatuning

    aquatuning What's a Dremel?

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    Looking good - love the black based copper!
     

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