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Aliens are real an’ all that

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Zoon, 19 May 2026.

  1. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    I've had a look at some of the images and footage, and if that's the kind of thing that convinces people we've been visited by aliens, I'm going to write "give this man all your money. Signed, the aliens" on a post-it note and have a whip round from the loonies :naughty::lol::lol::lol:
     
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  2. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Seems like a good plan, I’ll join you.
     
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  3. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    That would be Brigadier General Jack D Ripper, I believe.
     
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  4. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    How strange.
     
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  5. Nexxo

    Nexxo Rotate Your Owl For Science

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    The best evidence for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that they haven't tried to contact us yet.
     
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  6. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    It also betrays a complete absence of a sense of humour. In their position, I'd definitely be ****ing with us.
     
  7. Byron C

    Byron C AKA “Sticky Equilibrium” on weekends

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    In my entirely humble and modest opinion, I think I’ve trained extremely well for an alien invasion.

    I’ve finished XCOM: Enemy Unknown more times than I can count - I finished a run literally 10 minutes ago - and I’ve racked up 468 hours so far. And I’ve even beaten the original game, complete with the bug that cranks the difficulty all the way even if you selected the easiest option.

    Not to worry, I think I got this…
     
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  8. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    Cool, we have our DPS, I'm ok with tanking.. we got a healer anywhere?
     
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  9. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    I've done healing with a druid, in WoW...
     
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  10. Chin Tablet

    Chin Tablet Minimodder

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    What about that footage that those American fighter pilots witnessed? Is that 'explainable'?
     
  11. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    The D standing for "DeltaForce" obvs! :p
     
  12. Byron C

    Byron C AKA “Sticky Equilibrium” on weekends

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    Possibly, possibly not. I haven’t personally seen the footage you’re referring to, but I have seen plenty of footage of “UFO sightings”.

    Even if we don’t know exactly what the “unidentified object” actually was, “alien spacecraft” is very far down the list in terms of probability. In the 80-odd years that people have been reporting & recording “UFO sightings”, there is so far exactly zero concrete, verifiable, unambiguous, and undeniable evidence that we have been visited by intelligent non-terrestrial lifeforms.

    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
     
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  13. Chin Tablet

    Chin Tablet Minimodder

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    This is the footage released around the start of the pandemic.
     
  14. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Ok, fuzzy, indistinct black or white blobs, in very poor quality videos, must be aliens. Brought to you by the same country, in which many people claim to have been abducted and probed, by aliens...
     
  15. Chin Tablet

    Chin Tablet Minimodder

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    The video isn't poor quality, relatively speaking.
    It's a targeting camera, locked on using infrared/radar signature while both objects are traveling in the region of Mach 1 moving relative to each other at multiple mile range.
     
  16. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    It's shonkey enough to not have a clearly defined outline, which would go a long way to show what it actually was. I think the important thing to note is despite people taking it to mean, UFO does not mean alien spacecraft, and the focus should be the "unidentified" part. We saw something, didn't know what it was so didn't engage, here's a report about it. Just because they couldn't identify it on mission, does not mean they haven't since identified it, you wouldn't let on to enemy forces that you knew the flight signatures of they're new aircraft/long range missle/drone/whizzy-go-bye-bye machine.
     
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  17. Byron C

    Byron C AKA “Sticky Equilibrium” on weekends

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    The "unidentified" in "unidentified flying object" means exactly that: it has not been conclusively identified.

    We see faces or recognisable objects in the almost-random distribution patterns of clouds. We anthropomorphise animals. We anthropomorphise inanimate objects.

    We're hard-wired to look for patterns in seemingly random noise, because it's how our ancestors were able to make a distinction between "a bunch of leaves in the jungle" and "a tiger's face hiding amongst a bunch of leaves in the jungle".

    We're technically blind when we move our eyes quickly, but we never even perceive it because our brains "fill in the gaps" by basically making an "educated guess" at "what we should have seen". Seriously: get your face right up close to a real mirror - not your phone's selfie camera or any other kind of camera/screen because your brain's processing lag is way smaller than any optical sensor technology we've created; now look around and try to see your eyes moving. You can't see your eyes moving, and you never will see your eyes moving, because of saccadic masking. It's also why analogue clocks seem to simply stop if you look at them in just the right way - aka 'chronostasis'.

    In short: your brain is a tricksy ******* that lies to you. Constantly.

    People see footage of "UFO sightings" and immediately leap to "alien spaceship". Not because they're "stupid", or mistaken, or don't understand what they're seeing; but because our brains have incredible neuroplasticity and we have 80+ years of cultural indoctrination that boils down to "UFOs = aliens".

    We see "UFOs" and immediately think "aliens" not because that's what's actually there; but because we're hard-wired to want to see things that are out of the ordinary.

    This is basically every single "UFO sighting" that's ever been recorded. "Yeah we're gonna file that under 'UFO' because it could be any one of the following: super-secret military test by 'The Good Guys'; sensor acting weird in a way we don't want to be exploited by 'The Enemy'; some kind of new thing made by 'The Enemy' we spotted and we don't want 'The Enemy' to know that we know about the new thing; or, dude, if you don't know then I don't know, because that's just a blurry and blobby mess".
     
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    Anfield Multimodder

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    Also once your brain gets stuck down one path it can become very hard to break free and assess the situation again, for example if you mishear a lyric in a song the first time you hear it you are highly likely to just mishear it again in the future, now apply that to something like an optical illusion...
     
  19. Nexxo

    Nexxo Rotate Your Owl For Science

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    In Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Ford Prefect mentions "Teasers": usually rich kid aliens with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven't made interstellar contact yet and buzz them, meaning that they find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one's going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises.
     
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  20. BazzUK

    BazzUK Are we there yet?

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    Unfortunately I believe in the science of it all (and I live in reality), the Universe is vast, bigger than anyone here can comprehend, the distances involved would require such engineering and physics would be unheard of by humans, even in theoretical physics
    Best current theory for us, is fusion engines (antimatter is out of touch for us for 1000's years) as they can produce millions more energy per kilo than chemical rockets, but here is the rub.......
    Any engine/spaceship (fusion spaceship) would require 150 times the mass of itself to reach a velocity of 19000 miles per second (10% the speed of light), and that's far short of the idea velocity of light speed, but would still take 42 years at 19K miles per second to reach out nearest star (Proxima Centauri @4.24 light years away)
    (not to mention current chemical rockets, if they could have unlimited fuel would take up to 70,000 years to travel the same distance)
    Don't get me started on speed of light engine, because under the Laws of Relativity to reach the speed of light, you would need infinite amount of energy, which again, even with our theoretical understanding it is impossible ( and yes I love Sci-fi stuff)

    Any alien species would need to overcome such unknown (to us) physics and engineering, energy generation, stable fuel storage, lightweight hull, anti-gravity, but also a hull capable of resting the constant bombardment of atoms (inc. dust, particles etc.) against the hull (space isn't empty), which would not only create dangerous radiation but also erode the outer skin (ablative armour anyone?)

    With science and physics out of the way for us, then there is a idea that aliens pop down to us from an unknown place to do what? fly around (abduct humans, cut up cows?), if they are so far advanced that they 'could' reach us from where ever it's not plausible that we'd not be able to see, or detect them
    Then again why would they even bother? they can see and hear us in radio waves, as we have been beaming high power radio waves into the cosmos for 120 years, outside of this 120 light year bubble emanating from the earth no one/thing would ever know we exist
    The Fermi Paradox (The Great Silence Theory) tried to address why we can't see or hear anything other than natural phenomenon, but the Drake Equation does through up some very interesting ideas (or science), if only we could see or understand more of the Universe
    Would this be sad? yes of course it would, but humans have always have had a feeling of belonging, to be part of something more, if the earth has the only intelligent life in the Universe, then as per Carl Sagan, "what a waste of space"

    People like Bob Lazar are typical of the US UFO (UAP) glorified personalities, who has become a multi-millionaire since claiming he worked on a saucer style disk at Papoose Lake underground facility (saucers shapes are actually very inefficient outside the atmosphere), before this he was bankrupt with little money to his name

    Do I think have we been visited? no, impracticable and through our understanding, impossible
    What do we see when we think of UAP's? natural phenomenon, special effects, hoax's, trick of the eye or brain, unknown (to the viewer) aircraft (whether military or not) and for the US, it's big business now, and most importantly, who are we to say what we saw if we did not know what it is? guess?
    There was a US Navy release of a video showing a tic-tac shaped object travelling at high speed and very low just above the water (shown above by Chin Tablet), this was debunked within hours of it being put online, showing it was actually 13000 feet high and travelling at around 40knots (same height and speed of a helium weather balloon not long after lift off) but the Ufologists ignored simple trigonometry, and claimed it was alien spacecraft
    A religious saying is most apt - "The substance of things hoped for in the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11.1)

    Apologies for rambling, I am bored whilst I wait for my shed to be built :p
     
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