Rant All keyboard layouts are wrong

Discussion in 'General' started by Jamie, 16 Apr 2008.

  1. Tomm

    Tomm I also ride trials :¬)

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  2. Nexxo

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    No, what made Dvorak bitter was that his layout did not generate the speed advantage he had hoped for. In a comparative test of typists trained on QUERTY compared with 'virginal' typists trained on DVORAK, both groups performed exactly the same.
     
  3. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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  4. kingred

    kingred Surfacing sucks!

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    Ergonomically its a can of worms anyway when you start dicking about with layouts.

    how wide are your shoulders? are you a fatty?
     
  5. UrbanMarine

    UrbanMarine Government Prostitute

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    I use a basic pos compaq spring keyboard (http://www.governmentauctions.org/uploaded_images/keyboard-727620.jpg). $15 and it's 6yrs old plus it works like a champ. I spent money on the fancy keyboards that ended up being ****. The only thing worth spending a little money on is a good mouse.

    1. Agree
    2. Never had problems with excel input.
    3. Lazy
    4. WASD game myself and use the left side of the board for everything.
     
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  6. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

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    Tell that to office workers with RSI. As Tesco says, every little helps.

    Nice to see a keyboard that can switch which side it's numpad is on. I think point 2 is the biggest one, I often find the numpad placement the most annoying when I'm filling in something like an excel sheet.
     
  7. kingred

    kingred Surfacing sucks!

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    I personally think shoulder width is detrimental to the wrist positioning on the operator, and i guess if your not in the 95%th percentile your getting a bum deal.

    in short, grow more.
     
  8. MonkeyTurnip

    MonkeyTurnip What's a Dremel?

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    i havnt read the whole thread, but aleft handed keyboard is what your after, ive got one and its ace as im left handed, i use AutoCAD everyday at work, and i can keep clicking the mouse whilst inputting numbers
     
  9. Amon

    Amon inch-perfect

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    Once Logitech releases a version in their undulating 3D Wave formation, I'll buy it--typing on a straight keyboard has always been a tad disorienting for me as I've never stopped using a curved keyboard since I learned to type. As for the wide arm stance when using the keyboard, I'm not bothered by it, in fact I like to have my arms a bit further apart. I'm half ambidextrous at most things (particularly at snooker :lol:), so the numpad can be anywhere it needs to be. I only have a problem with keyboard multimedia shortcuts, which almost every keyboard gets completely wrong.
     
  10. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    I'm waiting for the natural version.
     
  11. crazybob

    crazybob Voice of Reason

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    No question, if they release a Natural version of that keyboard I'll buy it the very instant I hear about it.
     
  12. kingred

    kingred Surfacing sucks!

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    The microsoft ID team are pretty hot now. Well actually it isnt microsoft, but a company in Sheffield, but you get my drift.
     
  13. BentAnat

    BentAnat Software Dev

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    Well, i've never had a problem with it.
    I play games on WSAD, and i appreciate the "wider stance" if you will needed by all those extra keys int he way. Makes it more comfortable to me.
    as for excel, etc... shortcut keys... maybe it's a developer's disease, but i am one of those people that can't do anything without shortcut keys...
    "start-r","start-e","ctrl-tab"....even photoshop is very heavy on shortcut keys for me.... oh, and RTS games...
    in excel, for example, i tab, enter, cursor my way around constantly...
     
  14. crazybob

    crazybob Voice of Reason

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    I agree, there are certain situations where having a right numpad can be great. However, during most activities I don't even use it. I like to have the QWERTY portion of my keyboard centered on my main monitor, which means there are several inches of rarely-used keyboard between me and my mouse. It doesn't seem like much, but I really think I'd be more comfortable if I didn't have to reach across that every few seconds.

    I like the detachable numpad, but I'd also be content with no numpad, and a laptop-style numpad-only keyboard elsewhere on my desk. Unfortunately, nobody makes an ergonomic board with no numpad.
     
  15. iggy

    iggy Minimodder

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    i still want that keyboard thing they used for all the consoles in seaquest dsv.
     
  16. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Thanks, Jamie, now I won't be able to stop thinking about it.

    Git. :(
     
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    Fophillips What's a Dremel?

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