Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by WilHarris, 6 Oct 2006.
The 'over in the forums' link is broke.
-- Fixing, thanks! - Da Dego
Do you think the site will disappear before October is done? Or does Russia have little chance of joining the WTO with or without the interference? Let us know what you think over in the forums.
What does it say about the state of international relations when one rather unimportant website can hang up somthing like Russia's WTO bid? Allofmp3.com has proven that the model can work and be profitable, so there is little doubt in my mind that it or somthing very much like it will be around for a long time.
Yes but on that note the original napster (illegal one) was profitable, and got closed down, along with most of the decent pier to pier networks (As far as I am aware)
Remember that less and less countries want these sites hosted in there own borders, take Sweden and the pirate bay for example..
I'm not sure all of mp3 will last, I think eventually they will disappear, as yes they are profitable, but I'm 99% sure the original artist makes nothing from a 12p song sale. hence the only reason they are profitable is because they are not paying royalties, make them start, and the price goes up, if they refuse, they will be taken off line.
just my 2pence...
what happened to that legal add-supported free MP3 download site that was mentioned in the bit-tech new some month ago?
Does that mean it's time to "get it before it's gone"?
Cue the madrush to an allofmp3 downloading orgy!
Sweden doesn't want TPB? Just you wait until the case is settled. Piracy will prevail!
this is very bad for democracy and the liberty of everyone that wants to listen to some music.
and this is all because of a democracy and liberty loving country.
How does that make sense?
Russia isn't the fairest of places so I'm inclined to agree with Wil that if Russia want into the WTO(which they do) allofmp3 will just stop existing.
Next stop, China!
I can just see them tunning under/through/over the great firewall of China
let me help:
in teory you are free to buy music and use it as you wish, this is a liberty, you are also able to vote with your wallet when you buy or dont buy an album so there you have the democracy part.
today you cant do what you wish with the music you buy because of the excessive DRM, and even if you dont buy the album (a vote for the box "change your ways, something is very wrong") they dont do anything and/or make everything worse, and blame piracy and go off pulling strings in the government making big countries (USA) bully other smaller countries (Russia).
me, you and everyone.
They moan at us for downloading "free music" so we go over to the paysites.
We're wrong again.
I don't know why Russia wants into the WTO so badly - Even with international agreements nations bend the rules anyway: Every time international courts have ruled against the USA on softwood lumber trade with Canada some USA senator tries another tactic - which is almost always - eventually - ruled as illegal. I'm not trying to attack the USA - it's just the first example that comes to mind. The second example is the eastern oil cartels: in most western nations their tactics would be rule as illegal market manipulation (as would much of what De-Beers has done in the diamond trade). Though I suppose getting into the rule making body not only helps Russia to influence some rules but also gives them a little more prestige.
Once Russia (or any nation) gets in can they be kicked out?
DXR, Russia is not a smaller country. As far as I can see, it's about money and not bullying.
Is this all about this one single website in particular, or similar sites as well? B/c it does seem awfully petty to stop everything on account of one single website.
when i say smaller i mean in terms of money and power...... sorry if i was not specific.
edit: and i hope they change your name to what you want.
Russia aren't as small in money or power as many people seem to think. The USSR may have broken up, but the ruskies have retained a good chunk of the power they had back then. They're oil and gun rich, with decent positioning in the UN and plenty of support from local countries and china.
Of course if the US say they don't get into the WTO without shutting down allofmp3 I don't see russia caring. Allofmp3 won't be anything important to the russian govt. I don't imagine, and shutting it down wouldn't be a problem legally or morally for 'em either. The only reason I can see they'd object would be if they saw it as an attack on their right to do what they want within their borders, but I doubt they'd be that stupid.
I love forums threads like this, coz you can tell the people that are gunna suffer the most if AOMP3 dies, coz your all trying to say its wrong to take it down.
Its fairly obvious, your paying £0.80-1.50 an album, once you take a)the webservers rental, b) the bandwidth bills, c) the "staffs" time to rip all the albums and maintain the site.
You think the artist is seeing a single penny of that ?
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