I hope so - seems like whenever the quarterly numbers come out, it's always AMD losing money. Even if it feels a little BD was an afterthought on the desktop - "crap, you guys, Llano isn't going to cut it this time. It's been 10 years since we've had a brand new architecture!" Hence, turn BD into the new higher-end desktop processor. Now, turns out maybe that wasn't the best idea, when you see it benched beside SB. But, if they survive long enough to get PileDriver out the door, then I'll upgrade. I'll stick with my Phenom II for now. Be nice to see them get some server marketshare back, though - that slide has been painful to watch. At work, when the IT manager asks my advice on hardware (he's almost strictly a network guy), it kills me to have to recommend Intel, but it hasn't made sense to recommend AMD for a while now, in terms of bang for the buck. Got even harder once SB got released, and the appeal of Llano is not what businesses need. Neither is BD, for office PCs. Maybe next go-round speccing new servers there might be some competition.