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News AMD: EVGA wanted to sell ATI cards

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  1. Sark.inc

    Sark.inc New Member

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    don't get ride of sapphire, they come with one of the best bundled packages i know of, not to mention the toxic range.
     
  2. pizan

    pizan that's n00b-tastic

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    i wish they picked up XFX...yes lifetime warranty for parts and labor
     
  3. Sublym3

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    I actually think ATI could do with more partners, or just replace the ones it has with better ones.

    Current ATI partners dont offer that much in the way of extras; which is dumb seeing as ATI has limited them to stock designs so far.
     
  4. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    extra's? why the hell do you want them to add that to the price, because nothing is free in this world. No ATI have got it right by selling cards almost OEM packaged, and the Black edition of the 4870 looks most interesting, shall wait for the monster 4870X2 black edition!!! probably cost about £200..

    ATI manufacturers have been suffering for along time with bad sales during the 8800GTX life span, and now the 4870 is selling extremely well AMD is letting its partners earn some cah back after them investing alot of time and money into there production.

    the 4800 series reminds me of when AMD introduced the first 64-bit CPU and it screamed past Intel, wasn't going to cause intel to go under but did cut there sales in a big way! Then AMD were first to dual core, again intel got bent over and treated like a sheep! (AMD is the farmer)

    AMD's biggest mistake was in fact its AM2 range, i was surprised to see that the AM2 upon release was just a simple Athlon 939 with a different memory control for DDR2, and a few tweaks. What AMD should do now is to develope a decent speed CPU that can perform on par clock for clock with a core duo, but with low power consumption. what with engery bills the way they are going iv powered up my old shuttle with its sempron 1.6GHz beast just to keep the electric bill low!
     
  5. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    most of the "partners" nividia and amd have could go away, they are not necessary, the cards are all the same, they all throw in the same useless extras, they all use the same pcb's, they all use the same drivers, whats the point? why not just have nvidia and amd sell the cards directly? no need for "partner" to get involved, just my 2 cents.
     
  6. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    As far as I recall, Sapphire is (or was?) ATI/AMD's primary partner in that most, if not all, cards are/were actually manufactured by Sapphire. I guess that would make Sapphire the one partner most difficult to replace. I still think ATI/AMD should mull over taking EVGA on board. They really could do worse... :)
     
  7. Guest-16

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    2 years in the UK though :( but only about as good as most AMD partners though :p
     
  8. frontline

    frontline Punish Your Machine

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    Have always tried to buy Sapphire cards, excellent cost/reliability. The one time i changed was to get a HIS 3870 X2, which promptly died after a day or so. I think AMD have got it right with their approach, keep their core partners happy who have supported them through the lean days too.
     
  9. Adnoctum

    Adnoctum Kill_All_Humans

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    Not to get all bent out of shape, but that say more about you than it does about premier brands. I'm going to assume that you don't know much about graphics card manufacturing, more a customer than a full-on enthusiast. That's fine, as it explains your focus on sales support over design and quality. But before you start bagging on brands you should educate yourself.

    Sapphire is the main ATI manufacturer. I understand that all current HD4870 are made by Sapphire, then other manufacturers slap on their own sticker. So how is the Diamond card better than the Powercolor? Or the HIS? Or even the Gecube?
    BFG and EVGA do not manufacture nor design cards. They merely buy high speed-binned cards from Nvidia (or their reference card manufacturer) and perhaps add a custom cooler.
    Diamond is a premium brand? Diamond hasn't done anything meaningful in quite some time. Even the HD4870 XOC Premium Black Edition is merely a reference board with stock cooling and a bump in clocks. At the moment it is a Photoshopped JPEG in a press release. I'll make sure I get impressed when I finally see one.
    Last time I had anything to do with Diamond was a couple of Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo2 12MB PCI in SLI. That was quite a long time ago.

    Sapphire and Powercolor have stuck by ATI in the good times and the bad. Why would they screw over such rare loyalty by dropping them for a couple of Nvidia "pre-loved" princesses? That notoriously abusive partner Nvidia treats them bad and they run squealing to the guy who won't treat them like a bitch.

    For my first ATI card ever (over ten years spent with 3DFX/Nvidia) I went for the HD4870 slapped with a Gigabyte sticker as it came with a 3-year warranty. Unfortunately the cheaper card slapped with a Gecube sticker only came with a 1-year warranty.
     
  10. Grinch123456

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    BFG I can understand- their lifetime warranty is erotic. Once AMD has BFG on board, that's it. No need for EVGA.
     
  11. Gravemind123

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    EVGA also has a lifetime warranty, and the US XFX does also(but I think XFX has a crappy one for the rest of the world).
     
  12. Timmy_the_tortoise

    Timmy_the_tortoise International Man of Awesome

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    The sticker peeled off my Powercolor 4850. :(

    I'm not too bothered, since it was a crap sticker anyway.
     
  13. Goty

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    Does anyone else miss the "Built by ATI" cards?
     
  14. dwoodward

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    A bit of a rarity. I don't remember ever seeing authentic, original ATi or nVidia products before.
     
  16. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    ya I do miss the built by ATI cards but anyhow to bad the EVGA thing is false unless that guy that states its false is just saying that not knowing the higher ups could be the ones doing the talking, I mean he is a tech after all, anyhow I think it would have been a good move on EVGA part but ehh.
     
  17. Xir

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    What I miss is non-generic cards,
    so with better video-in-out, or better power-control/tweakability, or better cooling (or more silent cooling).

    All we see now is rebranding and rebinning.
     
  18. zoot2boot

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    Haha, i bet they never thought of that, you should write them a letter.
     
  19. ComputerKing

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    hahhahhah

    this will be cool really. but it's funny. EVGA ati. Lol. Can't wait.
     
  20. cliffro

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    I have issues with Sapphire's RMA process, I've owned 2 ATI cards a 9800 Pro(BBA) and a 2900 Pro(HIS)(Both are still running strong), My friend owns a Sapphire X1900GT, it was still within warranty yet they charged him $15 to basically send it to Taiwan to be fixed/replaced. What good is it to have offices in the states if they don't do RMA services? and then charge thier customers to compensate for their shortcomings. None of ATI's partners have warranties worth mentioning. VisionTek has a lifetime warranty but I see people complain on their forums that the service itself is horrible.

    I've only had to RMA 1 card myself that was a 7900GT from EVGA, there was damage to the card done by me(but unrelated to the actual issue) and they replaced it anyway. That's customer service.(and basically made them Tops in my book for NV cards)

    The Sapphire RMA, My friend who built the computer sent the card back for our other friend, forgot to include the check/money order for $15 instead of calling him and pointing out he forgot to include it(so he could send it to them), they shipped the card back with no explanation, he had to call them and then play phone tag for them to tell him he forgot the money. And he had to repeat the whole RMA process including Shipping costs. Needless to say they lost a customer.

    And he's still waiting for the fixed/replacement card(using my 2900 Pro till it gets back) 2 months now.
     
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