Blogs AMD isn’t planning to steal a little market share...

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  1. Dogbert666

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  2. edzieba

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    AMD seem to have set their sights on the X99 platform with the focus on Moar Cores and highly threaded benchmarks. This is great if you are already on X99 or looking at X299 and want a cheaper option.

    Whether they can turn that into volume sales is yet to be seen. There is a gulf of workloads between single-threaded and embarrassingly multi-threaded where adding more cores actually nets you more performance. Gustafson's Law applies for easily threadable workloads, but those workloads have generally moved to GPGPU. The remaining workloads sit firmly under Amdahl's Law scaling.
     
  3. Hustler

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    I'm just hoping the 4 & 6 core chips will offer better over clocking than what seems to be the case with the 8 core variants.

    Maybe having up to 4 less cores on the chip will add another 300-500mhz to their speed..hopefully.

    Otherwise I just hope the sudden competition will drop the 7700K down to the £250 range.
     
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    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    On the CH6 box Asus state you can run Athlons. Ryzen Athlons...

    Which should be as cheap as dirt tbh.
     
  5. nimbu

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    I havent owned an AMD CPU since 939 / AM2+ days, but I am really excited for the shake up that this will force at Intel.
     
  6. 23RO_UK

    23RO_UK Hasta Mañana

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    To be brutally honest, I'm hoping Intel are going to take a repeated kicking to the genitalia in a metaphoric sense - they have offered little since Sandybridge other than ever increasing price tags, the i3 7350K being a prime example of the contempt they seem to hold the consumer in.
     
  7. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    Can AMD really make a big comeback though when, or if, Intel could slash their prices overnight and afford to keep doing so, it seems to me AMD has to offer something Intel can't combat with an overnight management decision.

    Obviously reduced prices is great for the consumer but a price war isn't going to benefit AMD.
     
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    If Intel price match or price lower than Ryzen I will put £5 into Gareth's charity.

    Ed. Even the crappy P4 cost more than the Athlons even though it was total Thomas Tit.
     
  9. Pookie

    Pookie So this is permanence, love's shattered pride.

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    Bit-Tech will still say it's worth buying lol
     
  10. Corky42

    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    They wouldn't need to match or have a lower price, they'd just need to reduce prices enough to make the price/performance ratio competitive with AMD, when you're a company in AMD's situation you can't afford to enter a price war, you have to offer the customer something they can't buy from your competitor, you have to have a secret sauce (IMO).
     
  11. jrs77

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    That's not entirely true. The best CPU released by intel during the last years is still the i7-5775C imho due to it's IGP, which actually can be used for something else than just watching videos. And the big level 4 Cache also has proven to offer better performance. And mind you, the $400 pricetag wasn't that outlandish either for that chip. For me it's the best CPU I've bought with regards to price/performance within the last 10 years.

    As for AMD. If they don't release a 4c/8t chip with an IGP as powerful as the IrisPro I'll be heavily disapointed tbh.
     
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    I think that those are coming late this year, but the GPU will be far ahead of the IrisPro; I think that even the current APUs are ahead of IrisPro on the iGPU front.
     
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    If offered similar performance for similar price, id bet that quite a few single unit purchasers would opt for the underdog, a little bit if human nature.
     
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    Show me at anytime in history that Intel have lowered prices because of competition....
     
  15. rollo

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    We shall see in 3 months when the next market share figures are live the AMD 480 gpu did little to nothing to dent nvidia market share
     
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    They did, just not for end users.

    Remember the illegal deals they did with Dell and co that provided rebates on Intel Cpus in return for locking Amd out of the pre built market.
     
  17. Corky42

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    The reason they lowered prices is probably going to be disputed but IMO that's what they did with the P4, the last time they had real competition.
     
  18. LennyRhys

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    I agree with the above - AMD need to get their overclocking headroom sorted if they want to compete in the enthusiast market, which is made up primarily of gamers who want the best single thread performance.
     
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    Whilst I hope Ryzen is good and would be happy to buy it, I would be ecstatic if it forced Intel to slash prices and push the HEDT platform mainstream, that's what I want but not enough to pay current rates :D

    That said part of me wants to support AMD to stick it to Intel and their dumbass platform changes with almost every chip release, I really liked how long my old AMD systems lasted sockets wise.
     
  20. jrs77

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    The i7-5775C is actually on exactly the same level of graphics-performance, but the whole package runs at 65W TDP instead of 95W compared to the A10-7870K.

    The newer implementations in the mobile chips allready show how much more powerful this iGPU can be. Would intel make another desktop-chip with Iris-graphics, then we would look at the graphics-performance of a GTX750 or better delivered by an iGPU.
     
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