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News AMD Radeon HD 6800-series benchmarked

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 12 Oct 2010.

  1. azrael-

    azrael- I'm special...

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    I'm not sure how adopting the most inane naming scheme for the new 6xxx series will fill the gap, where the GF104 currently resides.

    If anything naming the Barts the 67xx series, as expected by most, and pricing it similarly (as they hopefully will) would have done much more to close said gap.

    Instead, some dimwit marketing drone at AMD thought that making sure Barts is confused with the proper Cypress successor (Cayman) and generating initial bad press for the new series (like this article) would be a bright idea.
     
  2. CustomPCMAX

    CustomPCMAX Computer Geek

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    I will wait for some official benchmarks and reviews before making any conclusions.
     
  3. Pete J

    Pete J RIP Teelzebub

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    Artificial benchmarks = rubbish.

    When I see figures for Metro 2033 and Crysis then I'll be happy.
     
  4. Shayper09

    Shayper09 Swimming in Deionized.

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    Can I just say that the 6850 ISN'T the replacement for the 5850? In most of the roadmaps given so far it's a replacement for the 5750, meant to be put in direct contention with the 460 768mb version. And as for the 6870, that is the replacement for the 5770, and put in direct contention with the 460 1gb version. They are the Barts Pro and Barts XT parts, NOT the Cayman Pro and Cayman XT parts that, on their arrival as the 6950 and the 6970, will be the the direct replacements for the 5850 and 5870. And judging by the performance increase over the lower level cards here (these cards should be released in the same price segments) these cards are going to be WOWZOMG fast =].
     
  5. Hustler

    Hustler Well-Known Member

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    Probable price points?.....(including greedy retailer price gouging launch premium for the dopey saps that just have to have the latest & greatest on day 1)....

    6850 = £149.99
    6870 = £199.99
    6950 = £279.99
    6970 = £349.99

    Reasonable ball park figures...?
     
  6. Yoy0YO

    Yoy0YO Lurky Lurker

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    What happened to the Adam West cooler? I'm sad to see it go :(
     
  7. CharlO

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    Or a fake lie from Xfastest?
     
  8. Archandel

    Archandel New Member

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    Before: ATI 5750-5770 => GTX460 => 5850-5870 (not counting the crap 5830 which was actually a severly crippled 5870 reference design card, so not really mainstream, just junk.)
    After: AMD 6750-6770 => 6850-6870 => 6950-6970

    The point is, that there will be no place for nVidia graphics, where AMD hasn't got a more superior product both in technology and price. And the new naming scheme, given the performance gap of the previous generation, gives now much more sense.
     
  9. Goty

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    Way to fail at some basic research, BT.
     
  10. Archandel

    Archandel New Member

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    And after all who gives a f? It's just a name. I don't care if they call it the "Armageddon Massacre Destroyer 9999GranTourismo XXX+++ Ultra Elite"... All i want is a decent price and an outrageous price/performance ratio. I'm waiting for the new "4850".
     
  11. steelmartin

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    AMD is confusing the market with this new branding scheme. Or is it new?

    Gareth's article is based on the misconception that just because AMD branded the cards as 68xx they're the replacements for the 58xx. But to be fair, the 6xxx-series is a new series, and if AMD judge that these cards are worthy of the enhusiast x8xx-naming instead of the performance x7xx within the 6xxx- series, that's their call.

    As long as all 68xx-cards are faster than the available performance 57xx-cards, it's actually not a "lie" to call the new carrds enthusiast class, all it means is that AMD probably will stretch the upper limit of the enthusiast segment when they release the high-end parts later, but keep the lower limit.

    Still, it's confusing, beacuse we've been getting used to that the whole performance segment would get shifted upwards with each release of a new generation of cards. Apparently not so this time? AMD will have some PR issues to explain this to those like Gareth who expects a 6850 to be faster than a 5850...
     
  12. Archandel

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    It's easier to shift the line a notch up, than doing the opposite. Current cards range from:
    5970
    5870
    5850
    (5830) = And you want to place 2 products right here. It's more logical to "rename" the top 3, than moving the whole bottom line say -100 in the naming scheme.
    5770
    5750
    5670
    5570
    5550
    5450
     
  13. bobwya

    bobwya Custom PC Migrant

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    MEH nothing to see here folks...
     
  14. murraynt

    murraynt Well-Known Member

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    Kinda harsh man, Bit-tech know the same amount as we do at this moment.
    All this stuff of a 6850 equaling a 5770 is still speculation.
    Even if Bit-Tech did know (like the upcoming GTX 485 ;)) they would still not be aloud say anything to the public.
     
  15. PingCrosby

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    I think I'll have a cup of tea.
     
  16. Fizzban

    Fizzban Man of Many Typos

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    I'm going to wait for official info. All this unofficial info has gone from the 6770 being as powerful as a 5850 to a 6850 being as powerful as a 5770. *yawns*

    Sounds good. I think I'll join you.
     
  17. Senilex

    Senilex Not a Troll. Honest.

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    Its been widespread common knowledge for MONTHS that Barts sits below Cayman in the codename hierarchy. With Cayman at the top (Antilles above it with dual GPU) how can one (from a Tech website) even assume this is a 5850/5870 direct replacement.
     
  18. Goty

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    I agree with you on both points, but I make a living penalizing people for not thinking (I teach) and they DO have exactly as much information as we do.
     
  19. Concrete-Coffin

    Concrete-Coffin Member

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    oh no what new card do i buy now thats a spanner in the works do i wait for these to come out properly or buy now
     
  20. Orca

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    I'm in the same boat :( Waiting on the official word on these before pulling the trigger for my new build. Hopefully it'll be worth it...
     
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