News AMD says PhysX will die

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  1. Chocobollz

    Chocobollz What's a Dremel?

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    Yeah I might be a little ignorant. You see I don't have any negative thinking about both companies, but what annoys me here is that I've seen to many green team supporter trolling on an ATI thread, that's what I don't like. I know we all have our own preferences, so I respect your choices. I didn't tell you to buy an ATI graphics card or saying that an nVidia graphics card (or nVidia itself) are bad, I'm just saying that you all should take those ChrisRay (and Chizow) words with a grain of salt because obviously, they're an nVidia supporter (and Chizow had been known to troll on whatever thread about ATI he finds, I think he wants to give negative press to ATI). I think we should give support to whatever company we prefer, so if ChrisRay and Chizow likes nVidia, that's fine with them, just DON'T give negative press about AMD/ATI. That's all.

    P.S. You can see that most AT's forum member considered Chizow as trolling here in this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2179958
     
  2. Virtuman

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  3. thehippoz

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    I dunno about them being both good companies.. they were in cahoots for a long time price fixing the gpu's.. that's why the prices skyrocketed and we are in the norm of 500+ dollar gpu's.. I think nvidia is even worse with the 200 series releasing at outrageous prices (I was an early adopter)

    the 9 series was pretty weak.. I owned the 8800gtx and went to a 9800gtx on release- it was faster but gimped with aa.. thier 780i was no practical improvement over the 680 other than it could run yorkfield.. call me crazy but nvidia been dippin in the consumer till for every penny it can this year while offering nothing good

    ati does have better image quality currently.. I don't want to hear the fanboys because I know they don't own anything ati- I remember they also had better image quality before the 8800gtx was released.. physx just makes me laugh, just another gimmick dippin in the till.. I would rather see havok (which runs on the cpu) take over as the standard and worked into all gpus instead of proprietary apple tactics- it's been around awhile.. physx was a failure since it was created- and cell factor was rigged.. you could play it just fine minus things like the cloth effects when they first released the demo way back- just had to edit the ini file with physx=off- after me and my buddy saw that we understood exactly what it was- physx is just a gimmick in it's purest form, unneeded- money making tactic :hehe: yeah sorry I figured it out- I mean a whole gpu just dedicated to physx :hehe: they hope you are that stupid.. more money
     
  4. Virtuman

    Virtuman What's a Dremel?

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    Both companies certainly do some things from time to time that aren't actually in the consumer's best interest. To some degree that's the nature of business. IMO, NV just does it as a matter of routine where AMD tends to use it as a fall back position and only when they really have to.

    As for PhysX, I'm in your camp. I don't think that waving flags or better flowing water is going to make people (that have any sense) go one way or the other. The real key with physics and other computational models running on the GPU is making it do things that are actually useful.

    CUDA is trying to go down that path with simulations and transcoding. So NV releases this code for people to use for free (as has been stated here) and someone like Badaboom comes along and builds a transcoding app.

    But if using the code is free why do they charge so much for the program and why hasn't anyone else used the code to do the same thing and just undercut them on price? If NV wants to convince everyone that CUDA is so mainstream why haven't they identified the other people making software that does the same thing and support them as well?

    I suppose it's because there just aren't as many people actually coding with CUDA as NV's marketing machine would have us believe. On the other hand, ATI builds support for transcoding into their driver and releases it for free. I think it's pretty clear that ATI has won this round.
     
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