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News AMD's 45nm CPUs are designed to overclock

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 21 Nov 2008.

  1. sandys

    sandys Well-Known Member

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    Probably OK my 140W 9950 just dropped into my 690G miniATX board with no bother, I was pleasantly surprised.
     
  2. [PUNK] crompers

    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    looks promising, i wont hold my breath though, i seem to remember some similar claims when phenom was first mentioned
     
  3. Ending Credits

    Ending Credits Bunned

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    I can't say I'm going to get one straight away but I almost certainly will look into one at some point.
     
  4. Redbeaver

    Redbeaver The Other Red Meat

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    bottom line: let the numbers speak, then the customers will decide.
     
  5. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Fixed, in anticipation.
     
  6. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    Isn't "designed to overclock" an oxymoron, anyway?

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  7. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    So this is just for the AMD quad cores? No games that I play make use of more than 2 cores and perform better with simply a high clock speed.

    So is there any AMD dual cores that can overclock really good? My AMD 6000+ is at 3.1ghz or so. It does not OC very well. Not much more than 3.2 and its not stable at ALL.

    Also it mentions of needing newer chipsets and such. I've got an MSI K9A2 Platinum with the 790FX chipset. Compatible with these new CPU's?
     
  8. Evildead666

    Evildead666 New Member

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    I've had trouble mainly when I came to downclock the machines for passing on to someone else...the machine didn't like it at all...
    My Q9450 is stable at 3.52, but not an inch higher.
    I have some super sweet aircooling tools, and will be happy if i can overclock as far as thermals will aloow rather than as far as the chip design allows...
    4GHz would be great, and if i can keep my DDR2 Dominators, then even better. ;-)
     
  9. friskies

    friskies New Member

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    If i understand the article correct only the black edition is "designed to overclock". So, overclocking to get some performance free is gonna cost you? Then maybe it would be better to just buy a better processor and skip all the hassle? The locked multiplier is a artificial constraint implemented only so that they can make money from you. Maybe i`m just getting old, but so is this ubiquitous advertising for overclocked/overclockable components. Anyone else sick of this?
     
  10. Guest-16

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    Quite. But AMD isn't exactly charging the earth, unlike Intel, for its current range of BEs. It remains to be seen what Phenom IIs will offer in terms of HTT overhead though
     
  11. Gremlin

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    At this point i'll be waiting and grabbing an AM3 Phenom II, at least then i can drop it in my AM2+ board til i can grab a new mobo and ram for it that was my plan when i upgraded and im glad to see it was a smart choice if they keep the pricing low still!

    Also one thing im amazed people and especially tech sites didn't pick up on was something i noticed in those leaked slides showing the models and thier names and TDP etc, im posting from my phone so i can't link the slides but if you go find them and look you will notice that for one of the phenoms thats clocked at like 2.8 or 3.0ghz that will be released as both an AM3 and AM2+ version the AM2+ version has a TDP of 125w while the AM3 has a TDP of 95 watts of the exact same clock speed

    If thats true im honestly wondering just how well it'll OC with the thermals lowered so much!

    It also makes me wonder what will happen once AMD's 45nm process matures if pre production silicon clocks this crazy already.. Im not the most knowledgeable when it comes down to the processes but once iup been optimized etc and a few stepping's down the track won't the TDP drop and other enhancements mean that extreme clockers might be able to hit or pass 7ghz (assuming this current early sample hit 6.3 on liquid nitrogen as reported) and we at home might be able to hit 4+ stable 24/7 on either good air or 5+ on good water cooling? Or have i totally lost the plot here haha
     
  12. Goty

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    I suspect the difference in TDP comes down to differences in operating voltages for the IMC and/or HT links, so those savings would probably be nonexistent when running the CPU in an AM2+ motherboard.
     
  13. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    hmm Gremlin made a good point.... right now I am sitting on the ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe with a Phenom 9950BE and G.Skill 4gb (2gb x 2) DDR2-1100, so should I upgrade to the new Phenom II for AM2 or just start counting my pennies and just do a complete upgrade to AM3 tri/quad channel memory when it comes out..... I guess it will depend on the price of the Phenom II for AM2.
     
  14. Gremlin

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    If that was the case however the other processor should have a different TDP as well but they do not, the 3.0 version is still 125 on both platforms while the 2.8 is the one that's TDP changes but either way it makes you think what the over clocking differences would be between the two versions!
     
  15. Goty

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    The 3.0GHz AM2+ part probably exceeds the 95W TDP due to its increased clockspeed, hence the identical TDP. The 2.8GHz parts produce less heat, so the difference between memory types and HT version has a greater effect on the overall TDP.
     
  16. mclean007

    mclean007 Officious Bystander

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    Gremlin - remember TDPs are in "bands". AMD has a 95W line and a 125W line (also 45W and 65W and some even lower for laptop parts etc. IIRC), so a chip that is capable of drawing, say, 97W at its stock settings becomes a 125W TDP chip, while one that draws, say, 93W max is a 95W chip. What I mean is, the difference might not be as much as it appears based solely on the numbers.
     
  17. kosch

    kosch Trango in the Mango

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    Cant wait to see AMD's latest offerings hopefully it will yield some more overclocking fun and endless hours of blissful tweaking!
     
  18. Journeyer

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    Hm. Didn't think they'd have them out this soon - I've already acquired a 9950BE. But I guess someone else might want it. :D
    Anyhow, as an AMD man I am terribly excited by this and looking forward to january 8.
     
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