So I've just read a report about Global Foundries 14nm process'. GloFo will be ready by Jan with 14nm FF, but it will be LPP/LPE (low power performance and low power 'economy') first. No high performance/frequency node development yet - so nothing suitable for CPUs or GPU. That's understandable since it licensed the tech from Samsung, who would never use a HP process, but it also goes to show why Zen is Q4 2016 - because GloFo decided to not accommodate its biggest customer, instead pivoting like the rest of the industry to mobile/IoT/automotive. But it will be competing in this area against Samsung and TSMC, who have 14/16nm active well before them and existing customers. It's crazy to seek new business at the expense of their old partners! So why wouldn't AMD just go TSMC 16nm FF? Which will have a HP process (16FF+ I think) available in ~Q1/2. That would bring Zen on the market 6-9 months earlier! Plus a big CPU + GPU order from AMD will swing TSMC business preference their way (and it would hurt Nvidia, who were TSMC's largest customer. That is Apple/Qualcomm now afaik) AMD maybe don't have enough money to prepare the same product for two foundries, so it's one or the other. But given that AMD will have known GloFo's 14nm roadmap well in advance why are they not more aggressively protecting their business? Seeking to get out of contracts with GloFo, given GloFo isn't committed to AMD! AMD's mismanagement is helping to kill itself.