Amish gone wild

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  1. thehippoz

    thehippoz What's a Dremel?

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...exual-assaults-children-including-cousin.html

    I dunno what to think of the amish really.. my dad does meals on wheels and helps a amish family get around sometimes in michigan

    remember my cousin used to really be out of control as a teen.. remember being in the car with him once and he pulled over and flipped off a bunch riding a horse and carriage and yelled, cursed out some of the guys- they just sat there and took it.. of course he became a cop later

    kinda reinforces my take that some people can't be helped (especially with the red hair)
     
  2. KMS-oul

    KMS-oul You think you know me.

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    kinda typical for any minority group that is socially excluded, a lot of problems go hidden within their communities. Either they view outsiders as a threat or they think they won't bother to help them so they try to solve their crap themselves. Makes you wonder how many other creeps are doing the dirty for everyone one that eventually gets caught.
     
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  3. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Today's non-news: people are being people.

    Every society has its criminals and abusers. Some societies are quite acknowledging about that; others hush up the uncomfortable truth because their moral framework cannot cope with it. The Amish, like most religious groups or for that matter even secular society as little as 50 years ago (and e.g. Japanese society today) belong to the latter.

    Denial... not a river in Egypt.

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  4. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    nexxo i would have +1 'd you, but apparently i have to spread the love else where before giving you more
     
  5. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    :eyebrow::eyebrow::eyebrow:





    now back on topic.... i think KMS is right about it being common in socially excluded groups. i think for the most part everything is fine with them, but the few that do these stupid things are able to take advantage of the group being separated from the rest of the world and get away with it.
     
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  6. thehippoz

    thehippoz What's a Dremel?

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    rich has to spread huh xD.. from what I've heard, they aren't really out of the loop with technology which I find kind of strange.. no cars but they will ride in a car- or have things done with tech by non omish

    hmm nexxo that's a good way look at it- it goes against what they believe so they try to deal with it within all of that.. yeah not too sure about these closed off societies- they probably need to account for crazies
     
  7. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    From what I understand the Amish do not strictly oppose technology; that is mostly a myth. What they do is evaluate things on the basis of how it will affect family life at home, and how it will affect what they view as their standards of community. For example, an Amish family doesn't oppose television because it is some magical electric box, they oppose television because they feel it will cause too much of a distraction from their traditions.

    Also, the Amish, as with every other religion on the planet, have different beliefs from community to community. Some Amish have no problem driving cars.

    While their fundamentalism can be extreme at times, some of their basic ideas about community and family do make sense. As with any group of people you have be able to separate the good from the bad.
     
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  8. talladega

    talladega I'm Squidward

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    a winner is you!

    +1
     
  9. DarkLord7854

    DarkLord7854 What's a Dremel?

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    Tbh, when I read the title, I pictured a different kind of wild.. I think I watch too much late night TV >.>
     
  10. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    No it's not. Remember Fritzl? Happened right under the noses of open secular Austrian society. Remember Victoria Clombier? Remember 'baby P'? A lot of abuse happens right in our society too. In many cases the abuser isolates his victims to avoid social control, but that is easy because nobody is that interested. In other cases, like baby P's, people do express concern but a slow and overburdened bureaucratic social services is too slow to act. Overburdened because arguably no one else gives a damn. People may express concern but nobody actually steps in and does something.

    The best prevention of abusers 'going wild' is social control. The best way for the community to exert that social control is to acknowledge that abuse happens and to neither ignore nor witch hunt it but to approach it as a failure in parenting (of the abuser as well as by the abuser) and step in as wiser, better parents.
     

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