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  1. Ozzie

    Ozzie Fork 'andles I wanted

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    Hi everyone, having recently done my first build for very little cost, I am tempted to make another to replace my ancient back up PC. It does not have to be anything anything other than a basic PC that will run my CCTV cameras and w7 and xp for general use. I need xp to run the software for the video cameras as there is no upgrade for w7. I wish to make it dual boot. An ssd and 3 other drives, 2 are sata and one eide. It must have PCI slot however as the board that runs the cameras is PCI . I wellcome any suggestions.
     
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    Pookie Illegitimi non carborundum

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    If you get Windows 7 Pro you can use XP mode! Then you don't have to worry about dual booting :thumb:
     
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    Thanks, that sorts that issue but I still need to be able to plug in a PCI card.
     
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    oops missed the eide

    maybe use a sata to ide adapter or put the ide drive in a usb caddy
     
  5. Ozzie

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    The eide drive is not the main issue here, I can get around that. I want to fit a new motherboard and CPU using as many of the bits I have ie PSU, case, HDD drives, I will need some newer memory and a ssd also. What I do need is to be able to instal a PCI card unless there is some kind of adapter available or a motherboard with a PCI slot.
     
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    How much are you looking to spend on the CPU, motherboard, RAM and SSD Ozzie? I had a quick nose and most of the cheaper Intel B85, socket 1150 boards had a PCI slot.

    Oh, will your case accept ATX boards or just mATX?
     
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    Ozzie Fork 'andles I wanted

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    ATX board is Ok for the case, its sole purpose originally was a dedicated machine for the cctv cameras but it is also handy for other uses. It needs XP and a PCI socket for the CCTV, but I can also run Win7 on it. Other people in the household also use it but to my mind it is painstakingly slow so I really just want to speed it up a bit and get integrated sound and graphics as the present ones fail to work properly. Budgetwise I was looking at around £120 though that may be a bit optimistic but I don't require anything or expect anything much for that . I wellcome suggestions of course . My first build a few weeks back only cost £170 including the case, MB, CPU and the 120ssd and I am more than happy with it
     
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    Had a nose in the marketplace and GaryP has a AMD A4 5300 (3.4GHz dual core), mATX Gigabyte A88X board (with PCI slot) and 4GB RAM for £60 delivered. That leaves plenty of funds left for a 120 GB SSD.

    Or if you fancy more grunt, Cerberus90 has an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz overclockable to 3GHz), Asus motherboard and 4GB of RAM for £65 delivered. You would need a discreet graphics card for this bundle though, but I'm sure you could pick up a basic one for cheap and again, plenty of funds left for an SSD. Asus still host XP drivers for this board so this might be ideal for you.

    I tried pricing up a new bundle (Pentium dual core, 4GB RAM, motherboard and SSD) but it was around £140.
     
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    Thanks for the replies, looked at the Cerberus link which looks OK, the GaryP link I could not get to work. I should have explained what the PC has at the moment "ASUS MB P5VD2-MX SE, Mem 2G DDR2, CPU Pentium 2.80GHz. I do not mind used bits if it will make a significant improvement.

    "I tried pricing up a new bundle (Pentium dual core, 4GB RAM, motherboard and SSD) but it was around £140."

    Thanks for taking the trouble £140 is not a problem and all new stuff, you do not say the size of the ssd or whether it has a PCI slot which is of primary importance
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    Forgot to ask what the RAM is.
     
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    I've fixed the link for GaryP's bundle :)

    Intel Pentium G3220 - £39.76

    Asus H81M-C - £38.76

    Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333MHz - £25.98

    Kingston 120GB SSDNow V300 - £41.99

    Total - £146.49

    The CPU will be much faster and much more efficient than your current Pentium 4 and the motherboard does indeed have a PCI slot but Asus say it doesn't support Win XP though. SSD is a 120GB entry level model but will still feel much faster than a mechanical drive.

    I would suggest a newer CPU and an SSD for your current Asus board but your limited to SATA 1 speeds and only some Core 2 Duo CPUs.
     
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    That sound good althought the budget is creeping up and it does not support XP although I fail to see why not.

    Maybe a different line of thinking is required by myself. The sole reason that I need XP is to run the camera software which will not work in W7. I have even bought a new PCI card that would sort of work in7 but no comparison to my old one that does exactly what I want. the card is just a circuit board, how can it know what OS it is. I would think that it requires a Win7 driver but I have failed to find one.
     
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    I'm running a geovision 800 in xp but this thread made me think it my run in xpmode on win7 I will try it today to see if it does
     
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    Can anyone help with drivers please. The software is called "Peaqe" and "DSR VTV Digital Surveillance" which is about all the info I can give. I have searched it on Google but never got far. It is old stuff which will only run on XP or earlier. If I could sort that out I could get rid of XP and move on.
     
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    have you tried installing the drivers via device manager and searching the cd for them
     
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    No I haven't, in fact I am not sure what you mean. I think that the CD will only have XP drivers on it but if they will work with W7 then fine, that is it sorted. Please could you give more details as to what to do.
     

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