Rant Another Bullying Suicide

What a ****ing joke...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1300043,00.html

When will schools learn how to sort out bullying? It's dead simple, so simple, they are now employing bullying taskforce, but for what? Just to make a statement to say "We are trying to do something" I guess.

It should be a strike system, when a person complains about bullying (So obvious to Teachers/Freinds), the person who inflicted it should have one strike (of course it has to be confirmed, but that's easy), the next strike and the student gets kicked off for 3 weeks, and if done again it's 100% kicked off, your not coming back. It would work so well, and I know, because I'm talking from experience. I could of easily been dead years back when this happened to me for about 3 years, the school knew about it, everyone did, but nothing happened, because basically they person has to do GBH to get kicked off, I got smashed over the head with wood etc, and all that wasn't enough, heh, what a joke, schools are a joke infact.

One thing that makes me laugh, is that if your attacked on school grounds, it's not classed as assult, the people who inflict bullying know the law very well, even more so than the Head...

 

It's often not easy to prove though, thats the point. Often it goes unreported in the first place.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think you'll ever be able to stop bullying, its a fact of life.

 

Plus you can only ensure physical bullying doesn't take place in school.

 

Yeah it goes unreported, because the person is scared shitless, bullying near enough happens in a "crowd" because someone wants to show off, so there are many witnesses. But schools know who the bullies are, it's fact, when I was there, the school knew exactly who it was without me opening my gob.

Well of course, because to stop it, it would have to happen in the first place, but reducing it can be done 100%, I remember I couldn't even walk into the school grounds because I was shitting myself.

Don't understand what ya mean?

 

Once you're out into the real world, in a secluded spot, there are no teachers to stop physical violence.

 

Spot on.

 

Sorry, but bullying will always happen no matter what. In some ways, its human nature, to want to make yourself better than someone, you put them down. Its like most other crimes. Your not supposed to do it, but it still will always happen.

 

Part of the problem is the student body. All it takes is a little intervention from your peers. Hell intervention from your fellow peers would probably have a much more positive effect on the vitcim than waiting for the school to remove the bully. I was never bullied, but there were instances in both middle school and high school where I intervened on bullying attempts. 3 simple words is all it takes. "Leave him alone". And in my case the bully backed off of the person. For a while I would sit with the guy during lunch just to keep him company until eventually he ended up in our group of friends. No suicide, no school shooting, why? Because myself, a student at the time, did something instead of being with the "in" crowd and laughing.

 

Bullying is about fear and power - it doesn't have to go on in public and the worst bullies know to keep it personal and close, putting their power to effect in a situation far more scary.

 

We still have laws against assault, don't we? Generally not tolerated behaviour --generally, it can get you into a lot of trouble.

Putting a stop to bullying begins with (yes, you guessed it) the parents, but particularly with society's notion that if the victim and perpetrator are minors, then it isn't really a serious, "adult" crime. Think about it: if someone beats you up, you can go to the police. The perpetrator can be arrested, tried and sent to prison. You can sue for damages. But somehow, if you are a child and the perpetrator is a child, then nothing happens: "boys will be boys", right?

This might have been so in a time when all that children exchanged was a few punches and bruises accompanied by some mild swearing, and they made up the next day. But now it takes on more sinister forms: systematic victimisation, gang violence and rape, school shootings. The children aren't little darlings anymore. Immature parents with poor impulse control and a sense of overentitlement and a culture of glorified violence have taught them well.

In earlier times, by the time you were sixteen you were working or learning a trade and you were expected to put childish things behind you. You were expected to behave like an adult and contribute to adult society. Now minors get to hang on to childish behaviour well past an age at which it stops being harmless. I think it is time to expect more maturity from today's youth.

 

bullying has always happened and unfortunately always will. Because theres always some scumbag out there who thinks its fun to pick on some one else. I speak from experience and the bullying I under went only stopped when I learnt to fight back and then got my parents involved as I fought back and thumped the bully back and next thing his old man was down at the school trying to have a pop at me for picking on his son. Luckily my old man had come to pick me up from school and he sorted it out (turned out he had gone to school with the bullies father) was one of the best days of my life when after me having a go at the bully I saw his old man give him a clip around the ear in front of the bullies mates and the bully started crying.

don't get me wrong I believe violence towards any child should not be tolerated and I know it was wrong of his father to do so but thinking back it still brings a nice warm glow and a smile/chuckle

 

Which illustrates my point nicely. If the community (parents and other adults) does not tolerate bullying, it does not continue. In the end, the behaviout of children is always regulated by the adults around them --if they care to do so.

 

In the present PC climate "other adults" would be extremely foolish to interfere. The law is on the child's side, whatever the provocation - and all young yobs know that.

 

Err, this isn't job bullying here, this is school bullying, a whole different, higher level - Physical and Mental.

From your comments, I can see that you were never bullied at a young (10 - 16) years of age, your comments are full of ignorance.

Having to sit in a classroom for 1 1/2 hours with people shouting "fat ****" or throwing whatever at you, then walking out of your classroom to get to break, you then are confronted by 30 16-17 year olds who are again throwing physical and mental violence at you. You then go to the classroom, and it's time for Lunch, you can't go to the Lunch Hall because you'll get beaten up, so you go out, but what you don't know is that there are people following/watching you etc, again you go to class to get harrassed and tis time to get home, but once again you get chased to your street.

Try that most days of the school year for 3 years and say that comment again.

I nearly got killed when someone pushed me into the corner of the radiator, slashed my ear into two peices, nearly cracked my skull.

 

if you think bullying is easily spotted at school think again. i was bullied at school and hid it so well for 3 years nobody ever suspected a thing was wrong with my school life.

 

So you were by yourself everytime the bullying happened?

 

when i was a freshman in high school (21 years ago) a few people thought that picking on the fat kid was a good idea.

it is amazing how breaking the bully's nose in front of a hall full of students and teachers (and administration, who saw the whole thing) can deter any future bullying. now while i don't normally condone violence, as in most situations 2 wrongs don't make a right, in some instances it is exactly what is needed.

if you won't stand up for yourself, no one else will either.

 

pretty much. or my so called friends just turned a blind eye. in the end it just faded away; the bullies were either expelled (for other things) or just got bored because i no longer reacted to them the way they wanted me to, and i could get back to normal life.

 

Your friends sounded like mine, never did anything. I did hold it back for a few years but it got to a point were I couldn't any longer, me getting my ear/head sliced made it quite obvious what was happening, but I will say that if anyone gets bullied, they really should come out, I was **** scared when I had to produce a list, but at the end it was all for nothing as **** all happened.

If I see some kid walking down the road now, I know instantly if he is getting bullied or not, it's so obvious to me it's like "just do something", walking fast, turning around, having a "I'm ****ing scared" face tells it all.