Graphics Another GeForce4 question...

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  1. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    I have just purchased a GeForce4 Ti4400 and ran the standard 3DMark2000 / 2001 tests on it. I got a pretty poor score, and decided to format C: and run the test again, installing only the required drivers for my stuff.
    I used the new Detanator drivers.

    I ended up getting 7833 on 2000, and 6849 on 2001.

    This seems pretty poor looking at some of the scores you others have got, but it's probably my system holding it back.

    I then installed a few programs, such as my ADSL software, office, zone alarm, winamp, antivirus etc...

    I then ran the tests again, firstly quitting all running programs, and both of the scores dropped by at least 1000 points.

    So, my question is:- why does installing programs slow down the graphics card, even though they are not running.

    Also, the rest of my system is:-

    Athlon 1.2 Ghz
    320Mb PC133
    40Gb 5400 HDD
    Geforce4 Ti 4400

    Thanks for any help you can offer.
     
  2. eddie_dane

    eddie_dane Used to mod pc's now I mod houses

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    I know that anti-virus is a major player in background resource hogging (Norton's is notorious). How are you shutting down the applications? You may think they are not running but if you are using XP or 2000, check the task manager to see what is actually still running. One indicator is the task bar in the bottom right hand of windows... if there is an icon there, it is eating up at least a little bit of your resources.
     
  3. eyescum

    eyescum What's a Dremel?

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    That score is about normal for your system. Its your computer thats the 'bottleneck'. Get a faster one....:p
     
  4. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Turn off everything in systray (hit ctrl alt del and close programs), turn off background pics, turn off all hibernation/standby settings. Decrease ram CAS latency, if running XP set priority to "high" on 3dmark2001se.exe just before you benchmark. Clean your registry, defrag your harddisk ...uhhh... turn off internet/networks etc... disconnect all usb stuff and disable it if poss. tryed different dets? tryed nvidia tweak programs from the net?
     
  5. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    Could you explain what this is? I'm pretty new to all this stuff.

    Also, I found a setting in my BIOS "AGP Aperture Size". Does anybody know what this does? It's set to 64Mb at the mo...

    Thanx
     
  6. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Ok exactly what motherboard have you got and ill go dig out the manual online and look up the BIOS settings.

    Agp apenture size should be typically half your ram, but cause youve got an odd size set it to 128meg (most ppl swear by this size anyway).

    CAS latency is the "column address strobe" for the ram. Its the delay between acessing different column addresses and the lower it is the faster the ram acess. However teh faster it is (like anything) the more instable it can become.
     
  7. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    It's a Gigabyte GA-7IXE4. I haven't done any BIOS updates and I bought it last year.

    Cheers..
     
  8. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    right uhh, goto chipset features setup and try:

    Config SDRAM: Manual
    SDRAM CAS Latency: 2

    The other default values look pretty optimal, and i wouldnt want to change much else cause a) i dunno what half of them do and b) i dont wanna byork your pc up ;)

    Set the powermanagements to all ignore

    If you dont use your parallel ports or com 2 or both turn them off cause they take up an irq.

    Try setting the pci latency timer to 96 also..

    Dont do them all at once, try 1 and test it to see if its still stable. If it doesnt boot/post or you get blue screens change it back. And also find where your reset the CMOS jumper is! :)
     
  9. seb835

    seb835 What's a Dremel?

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    your 1.2 Ghz is deifnately the bottle neck here...i mean 1.2 Ghz isnt exactly slow, but it isnt fast enough to keep up with the peformance of your geforce 4.

    to truely appreciate such an advanced and powerful gfx card, youll need a CPU running at 1.4 ghz or above

    i know how you feel though, after i install windows XP then install all my software, i usually get a 500 point drop in performance on my athlon 1800XP and GF3 Ti 500
     
  10. Cheese

    Cheese Doc

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    Hmm I'm not convinced...

    My system is very similar to yours, 256mb SDR, 1.4gig tb and cheapest of cheap ti4400 - at 1.4 I get 8200 3dmarks and upping to 1.55 only increases the score by 300 marks... I can't see the drop down to 1.2 taking me down to 6900 but I can't try it for you atm :(

    I'd blame drivers then,

    r.
     
  11. Necrosis

    Necrosis What's a Dremel?

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    I know this board well. My friend has one in his system and is running a G3 Ti200 on it. First I'd recommend you get the latest AGP driver for your chipset from AMD. Second try to find one of the many tweaking programs, and set your AGP rate to 2X. If you can also turn on fast writes. I'd recommend you leave your aperture size at 64; you have only so much ram.

    I'm curious though..anything below the video card??
     
  12. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    OK.
    I did all of the things mentioned on here one-by-one and a few together. The scores improved by about 500.

    When I set my AGP aperture size to 128, the scores dropped by about 1500.

    I think it's time to save up for a new PC :worried:
     
  13. Haddy

    Haddy World Domination

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    yup porbably drivers...if ur just using stock windows drivers then thats ur problem....and i havent liked a det driver sense 21.81.....also ur 5400rmp drive will bottle neck u also....as will ur sdram....
     
  14. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    Im using the latest 29.42 det drivers. Where can I get 21.81?
     
  15. quack

    quack Minimodder

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    Jaz Banned

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    my ti4200 got 8869 last night w00t
     
  17. Uberclocker

    Uberclocker What's a Dremel?

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    I would definatly check your bios and make sure your aperature size is set to 256. Make sure AGP is set to 4X
     
  18. Lucifer

    Lucifer What's a Dremel?

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    10,058 :dude:
     
  19. Synaesthesia

    Synaesthesia What's a Dremel?

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    When I set AGP Aperture to 256, it was very jerky. 64 seems to work best.
     
  20. DaSuperFly

    DaSuperFly What's a Dremel?

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    Isn't the hard disk the bottle neck?
    5400 RPM doesn't sound too good to me.
     
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