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Windows Another Windows 10 question. I am losing the will to live.

Discussion in 'Software' started by Kronos, 13 Aug 2016.

  1. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    My last PC (gaming rig) needs a reinstall of Windows and rather than faff about, and it is a faff with Asus Z170 mobo's, installing Windows 7 I thought I might use this to first upgrade to Windows 10 for free then use this and do a fresh install of Windows 10?

    I would rather a straight clean install of Windows 10 and I could buy this which is very reasonable but if I could get it done for free, then why not?
     
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  2. freshsandwiches

    freshsandwiches Can I do science to it?

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    The first option for me.

    Run the upgrade. Then reformat using a win 10 iso. No product key will be required as you have upgraded previously and the licence is linked to your motherboard.

    Your right it is a faff.
     
  3. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    I have not upgraded to Windows 10 on this PC recently, hence the question.
     
  4. sparkyboy22

    sparkyboy22 Web Tinkerer

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    Recently? As I understood it, you did it once you had a licence. You may be able to just do the fresh Win 10 install if you have upgraded this machine in the past.
     
  5. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    I have never ever upgraded this PC to Windows 10, if I had I would, of course, be able to do a fresh install.
     
  6. Yadda

    Yadda Well-Known Member

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    Yes, providing you meet the criteria for using assistive technology (although they are quite vague and don't seem too fussy) then you can do either, Kronos.
     
  7. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Yadda.
     
  8. modd1uk

    modd1uk Well-Known Member

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    This ^^. upgrade to get your place on the activation servers, then fresh install using a USB flash drive + the media creation tool found on the MS site.
     
  9. sniperdude

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    They don't ask any questions what-so-ever. its just the same as the normal free upgrade process.

    Did it myself a few days ago.


    also the latest version has clean install feature built in (can't comment on how effective it is never used it, I opted for a clean install from a USB stick after the upgrade) but it kinda reminds be of the big brands recovery options.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    I am so less inclined to upgrade to Windows 10 as I have just had to roll back to an earlier build on my secondary PC as the Anniversary update completely trashed my PC.
     
  11. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    I thought that I would install Windows on a separate drive thereby keeping my current windows 7 install protected if it all went wrong.
    first i installed windows 7 forgetting that of course in Microsoft's insistence that we all move to Windows 10 before the end of July it made updating Windows 7 after a fresh install an absolute nightmare. But I thought I had managed to get enough updates to enable me to upgrade to Windows 10 via https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade but it was having none of it and I was getting Windows update error codes.
    So I decided on a fresh install but that again threw up a meaningless error message (see image). Thought it was perhaps the HDD which is a 2.5 Sata I took from an unused portable caddy so swapped that for a perfectly adequate 1.5TB drive just taken from a dismantled PC. But still I get the error message.
    Anyone any thoughts?
    I might go back to reinstalling Windows 7 and trying to get all the updates on the installation before updating to Windows 7
     
  12. sniperdude

    sniperdude Active Member

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    Windows update for 7 is totally FUBAR and just checks for updates for hours on end was one of my main reasons for upgrading

    glad I did now tho its alright 10 now.

    I made the mistake of leaving other drives in while I install windows (haha not for the first time) ended up having to mess round with partitions and rebuilding BCD to get fast boot working

    don't make the mistake I did .....remove the other drives to be sure all your boot files are in the os drive.
     
  13. Kronos

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    I, of course, disconnected the existing drives but that did not help with my problems.

    I have decide to buy another USB stick as I did come across several instances where Sandisk has been the problem. I am also buying another SSD as I also discovered that the HDD I was trying to install on was at deaths door. So Will try again once these items arrive.
     
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    Kronos Well-Known Member

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    Was getting this Error "Windows cannot install required files. The file may be corrupt or missing. Make sure all files for installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x80070570." This happens when im trying to do a clean install on a blank ssd -

    Found this thread from way back. http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=177488 which did not work for me but what has worked was removing 3 sticks of RAM 912Gb) and Windows 7 installed without any issues. Does this mean that my RAM is likely to have a fault?
     
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    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    I disagree with the above test methodology, regardless of if Google use it or not to test their servers (a completely different workload to a standard PC). Running a full blown OS to test memory is overkill, and since when did Google become the absolute authority on everything?
     
  17. Kronos

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    It seems a bit of a palaver going Broadwater06's suggestion, grateful though I am for it, I will stay with the windows memory test and Memtest if I ever get this OS up and running. Though of course I can run it when I switch back to my Windows 7 SSD as I am now sticking Windows 10 on the NEW SSD and will play around with it a bit as I am not convinced that I like it.
     
  18. Broadwater06

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    Strong opinion but that's fair enough :D

    Troubleshooting can be a palaver sometimes though like taking out a mobo and inspecting for bent pins and etc and can take time and patience to pinpoint where's the culprit.
     
  19. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Yeah I can get a bit OTT where testing is concerned :D
     
  20. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Whitelist Bit-Tech in your adblock!

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    I've been hammering the assistive upgrade installer through any and all machines I touch and so far none have refused the upgrade or had problems, so as far as I can tell there are no actual enforced requirements at all, it's just free Windows 10 again :clap:
     

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