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  1. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    Last night whilst unable to sleep my mind, as it does, wandered to the origin of the universe and related questions.

    I have never fully accepted the Big Bang theory as no one has really explained what caused the largest explosion ever to have happen in the universe to occur.

    And if, as it is, generally accepted, the universe is expanding at an ever increasing rate and if there was nothing before the Big Bang then what is the universe expanding into?

    Could God explain it? or Before 1 Planck Time. Does that do it?

    If everything began with the Big Bang there can be nothing before so the Big Bang cannot have happened and nothing exists. But of course it does as I have just typed this post, or have I?

    If God exists and created everything, what was he doing with himself before hand?

    I am off to lie down now as my brain hurts.
     
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  2. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    Simple
     
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  3. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    Now why did I not know that? doh.
     
  4. Darkwisdom

    Darkwisdom Level 99 Retro Nerd

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    We humans don't fully understand the universe, so we can't say what it will happen after billions of more expansion years. There may be nothing, and it may either continue to expand forever, or it will stop (which is very unlikely.)

    Also, I'm not going to start a religious debate, but I don't believe that a god created a big bang; i cannot believe a sentient or even a non-sentient entity can create everything.

    If you've read the news, you'll know they found traces of the big bang, as well as evidence that the universe is much older than we first thought it was. They've seen tiny traces of light that only have just reached earth after 13 Billion years. After tracing it, they've seen a few what are called 'pristine' packets of gas, which contain no heavy elements.

    Watch this space, I think the next decade is going to give us a lot of answers about the universe. It's probably going to spurt out more questions than answers, but it'll be no doubt interesting.
     
  5. erratum1

    erratum1 What's a Dremel?

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    We are so insignificant maybe we will never understand.

    Religion is just stories people looked at the sky and thought it was heaven we now know better but people continue to believe and ignore facts.

    I find evolution fascinating...a spider likes flies but how the hell does it catch a fly?...I know give it an invisible sticky thread and the instinct to just make a trap....genius !

    I often think what we are evolving into since that ape to man chart doesn't just stop with us.
     
  6. Darkwisdom

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    I love evolution too. It intrigues me about how animals literally evolve to deal with their surroundings. What will we be in the next several million years? Will humanity exist? It's amazing to wonder what will happen to us.

    I do love evolution in fish; they're the most fun. Like how some fish develop bigger lips to spit water at insects above them.
     
  7. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    I predict that this thread will devolve into the usual anti-religion/anti-science rants faster than the universe's rate of expansion. It's an inevitability; it happens to every single one of these threads.

    There recently was a very good, very lengthy discussion on just this topic here at Bit-tech. If you can ignore some of the inane posts scattered throughout, the underlying discussion is actually quite good.
     
  8. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Far over the misty mountains cold

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    Peoples talk about the Universe like its the only thing in the neighborhood ? It is my believe that there is other Universes like there is other solar systems or galaxies neighboring each other.
     
  9. Darkwisdom

    Darkwisdom Level 99 Retro Nerd

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    Not neighbouring, but there are theories stating there are an infinite number of parallel universes. While there are other theories stating there are more like six or seven. I believe there are probably a limited number of other universes. Although our universe is pretty damn vast, it's hard to believe it ends there.
     
  10. Shirty

    Shirty W*nker! Super Moderator

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    Yep, because we will never know the answers to some of these questions, so in our impatience to fill the gaps in our knowledge we have developed irrational beliefs and ideas. The 'we' I'm referring to being more specifically the last several millenia of Homo Sapiens.

    The best we'll probably ever manage will either be "I don't know but this is my best guess based on existing scientific theory," or "God deals with those sorts of things, and this is what I've bee taught he said."

    :hip:
     
  11. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Far over the misty mountains cold

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    In the darkest place between the Universes lie ZAHADOOM !
     
  12. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    Nope, just the two. And I'm getting sick of parallel supermonkey lording his cowboy hat over me!
     
  13. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Uncountable amounts of snowflakes fall from the sky and yet each one is different.
     
  14. Kronos

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    I would imagine it more than possible that there have been two, or more, snowflakes exactly the same. I think the chances of seeing this is pretty slim but that does not make it impossible.
     
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    you got to love Futurama :D
     
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    No one has yet explained it. They might someday. Ask whether you attribute it to a 'god' as a convenient answer as much as scientists simply start the universe 'at a point'? What you don't accept is that you can't have all the answers right now (and probably will never live to see them). That's frustrating and unsatisfying, right? Welcome to our meager existence.

    Ask also whether you're simply evaluating the entire known existence of all energy by the microcosm of laws you experience. As much as you can explain why many humans do things you don't understand either; you can't possibly conceive everything. Get philosophical and stop thinking linearly: what if the universe is expanding into nothing? Can you perceive or imagine nothing? What if everything exists at once as its been proven that time is only perceptual not actual? Then there's also multiverses and all sorts of hypothesis. You can go the other way and wonder what keeps energy doing what it does - right down to its smallest state? What stops 'things' not being made or other 'things' as you get smaller and smaller?

    /mindsplode
     
  17. Kronos

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    Bit early for that and I take your point even if my brain now hurts.
     
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    Sorry too late for edit: you can attribute it to god if you like (which one? :D) that's your choice.

    Conclusion: who cares? Don't worry, be happy.
     
  19. Guest-44432

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    Mind blowing. We all have our theories. But who's to say we ever existed, other than what we know now?

    What happens when we die, or are we already dead?

    Can I take my Rig with me or better be connected to a ever infinite energy source to power Crysis 1001? :)

    Jokes aside, it's something we will never know the answers too.

    Has anyone ever been in contact with a dead relative? Who's to say there's life after death?

    Who's to say, that your love ones that have passed away will be waiting for you, and on that theory, would that not mean if you meet with your love ones when you pass away here, that your love ones would have other family loved ones, and those would also have family loved ones, to the point that everyone from the very existence is all in this waiting room? One large waiting room if you ask me! But a thought we all would like to believe. :)
     
  20. Guest-44432

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    That was a thread killer...:D
     

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