Education Anyone here a Jew? (seriously)

yeah well the only thing can say I noticed about jews is they are very shrewd when it comes to business, but in the end they usually do the right thing

like for example.. a jewish guy ran down the side of my truck on the way to work in atlanta.. the freeway in atlanta is like 7 lanes of traffic

anyways first he tried to get away.. that wasn't happening.. I got out in front of his car and pulled him over.. he gave me every run around he could think of even accusing me of not having car insurance.. after we exchanged information he was still thinking and said he would do the right thing, and he did

that's just one example.. probably why they have that bad rep.. it's a culture thing I guess- they are hagglers

 

just because one dose something dose mean they all do. EX: not all Muslims are out to kill the "infidel." not all baptists think soldiers are baby killers and believe there funerals should be protested. just the westboro baptist church. not all Catholic's think abortion clinics should be bombed. not all mormons are polygamists.

broad generalization are what the OP is trying to correct by seeking to teach people about the other religions.

 

Wow the thread just got ignoranter (I love making up words!)

 

lol I was worried it wall fall to prejudice...

 

Well, I'm not a Jew. and I don't build my life on a religion.

I just don't like seeing people spreading ignorance, even inadvertently. If someone has a severally deranged out look in someones religion, and bases their opinions on that, then I consider that dangerous. Take a look at the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Even today, people still believe it, and use it as a basis for discrimination, exclusion, and blatant hatred (granted, they are usually wacked in more ways then one). So, I try to at least set the record straight as best as I can, so that people at least can make informed choices, rather then ones based in just repeating what they heard.

 

aye well don't want to come off like that.. telling you guys what I've experienced as I'm probably a bit older than most on this board.. had a roommate for a little while that was jewish also

after he graduated and got his ba.. he started working for a company that made merlot.. I went on some runs with him to stores- it was hillarious (to me at least) how thorough he was.. he even bitched out a poor teller because there was dust on some of the wine.. she was like oook =] a lot of other things too but I don't consider them to be things I've seen over and over

there's a lot of opinions I have on different cultures.. it's not right or wrong, just what I noticed.. like my black friends growing up- they are obsessed with coco butter lotion heheh least the girls are

noticed there are certain things different cultures do.. it's not ignorant to talk about them- I could go on and on about filipinos too as that's half of my family

about what the op is talking about.. they believe in the old testament.. got nothing bad to say about their religion

 

If by "Mormons" you mean a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints then none should be polygamists. That's what the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is for! There's a distinction which is often pointed out when claims of polygamy are brought up.

But following my Devil's Advocacy, it doesn't really matter whether you know that or not. It just means you say "fundamentalist Mormons may be polygamists" instead of "some Mormons". You are not any less likely to discriminate on anyone based on their faith because you already accepted the distinction and simply didn't know the proper name.

More DA:

Throw us all into a discussion on the migratory patterns of orca whales and we'll have just as ignorant of a dicussion.

There are always things which we don't know about which others make be experts on.

Even the DA side of me can't argue with that. When people start using misinformation to cause harm then an understanding needs to be brought about.

 

i was generalizing. i realize that that is what we are talking about hear but the only group i did name by there actual name is the westboro baptist church. im just and guilty of generalizing about the sects of radical Muslims and catholic churches.

i am not intending to pass judgment on any of the groups ive used as examples and this being the internet im a little worried about what this thread will turn in to.

 

Well you open up a good point because of that generalization! At what point is a person generalizing and at what point is a person "ignorant"? God forbid we all have to be so politically correct as to say "members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" when "some Mormons" is generally understood as referring to that group.

Like you say, if some sect of a religion has done something or voiced some opinion then it's fair game. It becomes quite correct to say that "some Catholics want to bomb abortion clinics" as long as there actually are Catholics out there who do.

Imo, it only gets to be a bad situation if you start dropping the "some" and make blanket statements. An example from the thread:

This statement leaves no wiggle room and starts assuming things about people based solely on stereotype. One Jew was a shrewd businessman from your experience, so all are. One group of terrorists claiming a certain faith crashed some planes and blew up a subway, all of that faith are terrorists. For fun, let's add in that some atheists believe in evolution so all do.

That can easily lead to, for example, the hiring of a Jewish accountant over a non-Jewish applicant even when the former has less credentials. He's Jewish so he'll take good care of your money, right?

I certainly don't mean to attack thehippoz personally, and am probably guilty of blanket statements myself, like many people. The "some" is often implied and people who make those statements may readily accept that there are plenty of exceptions even to commonly true stereotypes. Just using this as an example of what could happen.

 

it's not just one guy.. something I've seen over and over.. you know I probably wouldn't even have noticed it if it hadn't been for my boss pointing it out once.. then I was like oh yeah xD

I was just giving an example

 

Jew's and their money is probably a stereotype we've all heard and I'd put my money on the majority of people having witnessed that first hand!

Just that the way your post was worded it was easy to make it look like you were throwing around stereotypes like gospel, made for an easy example.

 

not jewish myself, but family and friends are. so, befriend a jew and learn firsthand!

just read this op-ed in the times. it might be of interest: the "real jew" debate

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/opinion/10iht-edcohen.html

 

"but they are all afraid of being converted (like it hurts or something). "

snip snip

sorry ... gets coat.....

 

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For 50$ I can point you the right way.





sorry, couldn't resist

 

Not every Jew follows the same set of rules. I know a few and none of them follow the same principles.