Linux Anytone tried feisty fawn yet?

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  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    I doenloaded the feisty live CD and played with it some. SO far it seems good, but I wanted to see if anyonme else has any expierience actually running it. I'll probably wait for it to come out of beta later this month before comitting, but any impressions?

    I'll probably initially set it up on a partition, but I'm wondering will the install process want to overwrite my GRUB config file?
     
  2. notatoad

    notatoad pretty fing wonderful

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    last time i installed a second copy of ubuntu, it recognized that i already had a linux and windows install, and gave me the choice between all three at the grub menu. you shouldn't have a problem.
     
  3. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

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    Ubuntu is generally quit intelligent in setting up GRUB, so don't worry about it
     
  4. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    OK, just in case anyone else had the same question...

    I went ahead and installed Fiesty this morning and it seems to work well. There is a known issue with getting Gparted to work and while there is a workaround, I went ahead and wiped the drive and did a clean install. The Nvidia drivers still don't work as default, but the safe graphics mode worked fine and I was able to get the closed nVidia drivers from within the GUI instead of having to shut down the X server like the nVidia directions said to. GRUB gave me no problems, and it found my Windows drive automatically this time around. In fact, I can even access the windows drive from within linux, which was not automatically set up in previous versions. The automatic codec download is nice, no problems there. Biggest challenge I had was getting Opera to run, which required a hotfixed version of the browser. Appearently Fiesty uses a new version of the Xorg and it causes a seg fault in Opera.

    So anyway, after it all, I'd highly recommend Fiesty Fawn! It's still in beta, but is supposed to go gold in a couple weeks.
     
  5. notatoad

    notatoad pretty fing wonderful

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    i thought fiesty wasn't supposed to be using gparted. i read that they were coding their own partition manager just for the installer.

    good to hear automatic codec download works, i was excited for that.
     
  6. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Fiesty works well on my old Compaq laptop (vintage 1997). Just be prepared for large numbers of updates until the release day.
     
  7. MG Man

    MG Man What's a Dremel?

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    I've had it running on a Dell D600 for about a week and a half now and i'm seeing roughly 150 meg in updates a day :eeek:

    on the D600 it went on very nicely indeed, with pretty much all hardware being detected and utilised.

    the only issue i've had is with a broadcom 4309 wireless card installed (dell 1400 truemobile) but ALL broadcom 43xx wireless cards have this issue. (there is an open source driver, but the firmware is closed source and the driver loads the firmware at runtime)

    solutions: use fw-cutter to splice in firmware to the FOSS driver (downside is it will only run at 802.11b speeds)
    or:
    use ndiswrapper with the windows driver.
    both methods took some fiddling(nothing serious) but there are fine guides in the ubuntu forums.

    The only other annoyance I've had is that in the latest proper ati driver, they have dropped support for any cores older than R300, so my mobility 9000 is out of the loop now. the FOSS ati driver took some tweaking to get a respectable framerate out of it, but nvidia at least have a legacy package and don't consider anything legacy until before GF4MX (or thereabouts)

    other than that, fawn has been a pretty pleasant experience, and come proper release i'll be putting it on my main rig:clap:
     
  8. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Speaking of which, have we heard a solid release date for fiesty yet? Last I checked the site still said "In April 2007" :rolleyes:
     
  9. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    The latest release candidate has been delayed a couple of days due to some bugs that have shown up with certain ATA chipsets and with the Network Manager applet.

    Official announcement is here , and the official release date remains 19th April (next Thursday!).

    Fiesty+1 (now called 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon") seems to be set for an 18th October release.
    There will also be a fully open-source version introduced, known as "Glossy Gnu".

    (I'm NOT making this stuff up, honest!)
     
  10. BioSniper

    BioSniper Minimodder

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    Yeah. 19th April seems likely from everything that I've seen too.
    Which is nice. I wonder if they will have proper support for C2D cpu's compiled into the kernel at release. Just that 6.10 doesn't seem to have everything. I'm currently re-compiling the kernel for about the 4th time today due to my DS3 being a pain in the ass with the SATA controllers.
     
  11. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    I was thinking about this in light of the "Busy Beaver" mod, but no modder could keep up with the Ubuntu release cycle :p

    So if I leave my beta alone will it incrementally update itself to the RTM standard? If not it's no biggy as it ain't broke so I don't see a need to fix it at this point. I have to say that While Fiesty isn't massively different from the versions that came before, it has fixed a LOT of the niggling little issues that bugged me with Linux. Linux may not yet be ready for the masses, but I would say that it is a measurable step closer with this release :thumb:
     
  12. MG Man

    MG Man What's a Dremel?

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    yes exactly.
    and on release day, you'll just have a tiny update, while the whole of geekdom goes to download the images :geek:

    just beware, as an update on friday broke my laptop (fallback to previous kernel still worked tho)
     
  13. BioSniper

    BioSniper Minimodder

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    Shame that for what ever reason the beta of Fiesty that I installed to the missus' laptop today refuses to update asking for the CD. If I put the CD back in, it continues down the same path and asks for it again and refuses to acknowledge that it's there.
    I wonder if it's because I installed from the Alternate CD ?
     
  14. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    is it connected to the net? If so edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out any line that refers to the cd and just use the local mirror instead.
     
  15. Shagbag

    Shagbag All glory to the Hypnotoad!

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    I downloaded and burned the 15 April snapshot.
    It's been quite some time since I last looked at Ubuntu but 7.04 is the best yet.
    I was very impressed with wireless network configuration. I only had to supply my WPA-PSK password and it took care of the rest. I've never experienced anything that easy before.
    The 3D desktop worked without a hitch as well. Downloading and installing the proprietary nvidia driver was easy. Editing my xorg.conf for AIGLX was easy. Then it was just a matter of restarting X and I had things working without a problem. I admit that I was surprised to find they'd used Compiz and not Beryl and the set up was reminiscent of SLED10. Anyway, on this machine, it seems to me that Compiz is more refined/polished than Beryl, albeit having less options. Maybe it's just first impressions of Compiz or the fact that I always used to run Beryl-svn/git on my Arch install, but Compiz seems to be smoother.
    Feisty gets a thumbs up from me as a great distro for newbies.
     
  16. culley

    culley What's a Dremel?

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    God damn, im downloading it now and its gonna take 12 hours i would love to know how many people are downloading it i bet its 1000's.
     
  17. Hiren

    Hiren mind control Moderator

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    Shagbag how did you get WPA working? It's not showing a option here to enter a WPA key. (7.04 downloaded this morning).
     
  18. BioSniper

    BioSniper Minimodder

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    Finished downloading the release version of 7.04 a min ago.
    If its taking a long time culley try the torrents, I found the web servers were over-saturated (if you are going for a CD image that is).
    As to the WPA Hiren, it won't let you put it in at install, I'll fire up the missus' laptop in a bit and find out the exact way of entering it for you.
     
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  19. Shagbag

    Shagbag All glory to the Hypnotoad!

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    I downloaded the offical x86_64 version this afternoon at around 1300 BST. It took me 90 minutes to download and around 15 (in total) to install and customise.

    @Hiren
    Just right-click on the networking icon in the top panel on the right. It comes up with a list of available networks (wired and wireless). When you choose one, a dialog box comes up. Just configure things with that. It worked a treat with my ipw3945. What's your wireless chipset?
     
  20. BioSniper

    BioSniper Minimodder

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    Yep, thats what happens with mine too Shagbag, and for the record I use a D-Link G650 (rev C, uses an Atheros Chipset)
     
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