News Apple explains why no Flash on iPhone

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  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    i thought the real main reason was this:

    http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/02/20/an-adobe-flash-developer-on-why-the-ipad-cant-use-flash/
     
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    And let's not forget that Apple would probably rather you bought games etc from the App Store rather than nice and free in embedded flash....
     
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    He can go bugger himself. Long Live Android!
     
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  5. Nedsbeds

    Nedsbeds Badger, Slime, Weasel!!

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    HTML is no more suited to touch than flash.
    Common interactions involve rolling / hovering. Just look at drop down menus!
    and Javascript does not natively support multiple cursors (or fingers)
     
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  6. Spuzzell

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    So.. *FLASH* is the closed platform. In comparison with the iPhone.

    Really, Steve? REALLY?
     
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    No, in comparison to HTML5, like the open letter says.
     
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    Even the closed apple specific extensions to javascript in safari!? I don't think so
     
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    what flash games are you talking about? haven't played a good one yet, and quite a lot of games on app store a free
     
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    You can argue whether or not websites should use Flash or HTML 5 all day long.
    The fact is they DO use Flash, so it would make life easier for Apple users if Apple supported it.
     
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    http://www.amanita-design.net/samorost-1/

    And all those people who like to play *shudder* farmville etc are bang out of luck too... And yes a lot are free - but usually trials to tempt you into splashing out for the full version, for which Apple of course takes a cut.... etc etc.
     
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    +1 Apple have no real excuse here
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    who needs flash anyway? Flashblocker r the win!

    flash takes up resource, flash makes your netbook unusable, flash makes a website cluncky. i really like Apple's move, Flash should die!
     
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    To: crazeyceo
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    Re: Apple have no excuse

    We don't need one. Thhhhppppppppppppppppt!

    Sent from my iPad.
     
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    You could argue that the terrible Intel Atom makes your netbook unusable.:naughty: [/devil's advocate]
     
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    If anyone is interested here's an interview with Adobe CEO about this that I find very interesting an elucidative:
    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/04/29/live-blogging-the-journals-interview-with-adobe-ceo/

    And about Flash being a closed platform the Adobe CEO says:
    One other thing: regarding HTML5, isn't H.264 proprietary?
     
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    There is no getting away from it, there could have been far better solutions to embedded video on the web than flash (flash apps and games aside, here), and I for one welcome the embrace of HTML5, it's a much better solution and my only wish is that it could have been brought in sooner.
     
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