Apple Apple have gone Intel!!!

Discussion in 'Software' started by Gordy, 6 Jun 2005.

  1. Gordy

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    Its true :wallbash:


    Sad day tbh

    Will complete the transition in two years.

    Only bonus will be osx on pcs
     
  2. RTT

    RTT #parp

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    No. Please let me know why Apple would do this, and secondly how it's even possible? Do you think Apple are suddenly going to provide hardware support for every single piece and combination of PC hardware out there?.

    Just... no.

    You're still going to need Apple hardware to run OS X.
     
  3. Gordy

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    It will take about a week before someone finds a way to run it on a standard pc. They may as well bite the bullet and release it first.
     
  4. GreatOldOne

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  5. planki

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    Im with RTT i belive that Intel will develop a PPC chip and mac os x will run on that instead, would make more sense as the OS is then tied to the hardware still and apple can control what hardware their OS runs on etc.
     
  6. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    Like I said in the other thread, the developers kit is supposed to include a 3.6ghz P4 using an Intel version of OS X (seems like it would work with any x86 proc...).
     
  7. GreatOldOne

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    Yes the developer kit will... But I very much doubt that the actual 'mactel' version of OSX that will be running on next year's Apple hardware will install on any old x86 machine. There will be some way of tying OSX to the hardware - boot rooms, quirks of architecture, stuff like that.

    I'm sure that there will be 'leaked' copies of ADC x86 OSX floating around, but expect Apple to come down on people who do leak it like a ton of bricks as soon as they come to light, in much the same way as the did with the ADC members who distributed pre-release versions of Tiger.
     
  8. Hamish

    Hamish What's a Dremel?

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    not to mention they'll probably only include drivers for specific mac hardware
    unless you can find a way to streamline in drivers for your particular hardware combination it won't install
     
  9. GreatOldOne

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    Just watched the keynote speech:

    http://stream.apple.akadns.net/

    Interesting stuff, once you skip past the marketing guff at the begining. Universal binaries (PPC & Intel) with XCode 2.1, and Rosetta doing realtime translation of non ported code. The Mathmetica port was an eye opener - changes to 10's of lines of code (out of millions) and a recompile in XCode 2.1 with the Intel checkbox selected and boom - 2 hours later, it's runing on P4.
     
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    grrrr trying to watch the stream and mine keeps messing up loosing audio picture goes fuzzy etc! The furthest ive got in is about 8 minutes about half way through pod casting.......
     
  11. kickarse

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    I thought they were going... hrmmppp.... interesting though... I think this will help in the Linux takeover...
     
  12. ralph.pickering

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    Even if Apple try to tie it into their own x86 based hardware it'll only be a matter of time before someone gets it to run on a standard PC. It's based on Free BSD after all, so once all the peripheral OSX software is complied for an x86 processor it won't be all that hard to translate it over to standard PCs.

    Besides, a lot of Apple hardware is already generic . PCI and AGP bus cards, drives etc.

    Hmmm. Rosetta on a standard PC running all your Mac software... excellent!
     
  13. MrMacomouto

    MrMacomouto What's a Dremel?

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    Fun Fun, i allways wanted OSX as a second boot option!
     
  14. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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  15. DeathAwaitsU

    DeathAwaitsU I'm Back :D

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    Even if it only runs on specific hardware you could just build a pc with those specific parts (assuming they are standard, and available) and you get an apple pc without the hefty price tag, still a win imo :) .

    Death
     
  16. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    The same is true with current Apple machines, but you don't get the Apple design and the parts are rather hard to find.
     
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