@andyDel, can't be bothered to quote as this page will become massive and unreadable. iMovie isn't all that. Anyone who is serious about it will use finalcut as you said. Just like moviemaker on windows is plop, and if you really wanted to do some serious editing you would use avid. As for your multitouch being an extra feature, it isn't a mac only thing. my eee has it for example. I am not a mac hater as such. I just really don't see how they are anything special. My mate who has a mac always shows me something his mac can do and thinks I will be impressed, I always show him that my distro of linux (whatever system I am on, opensuse, ubuntu, mint) can do the exact same thing and didn't cost me an arm and a leg to do it. I have nothing against macs, I dislike the way apple try to make all their products proprietary(sp? on a machine without spell check) and get away with it. Apples business practice as of late leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Having said that, if a macbook cost basically the same as a similar specced windows or linux based system and looked better I would probably buy it. As it stands I do not think they look better and you pay a hell of a lot more than you would for a windows or linux based system. Not to keep harking back to your car analogy, but even if you do say an escort and passat have similar specs, the reliability between the 2 is going to be massive, and I know you are going to say that your mac system is more reliable that my windows or linux based one, but the fact of the matter is that it really isn't. My final point, I don't consider sony to be a comparable system maker, their systems are always over priced. I believe this is for the same reason as apple products are. To summarise, macs are too expensive for what they are no matter how you look at it.