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News Apple will be larger than IBM, says analyst

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 25 Mar 2011.

  1. chocolateraisins

    chocolateraisins :D

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    Will we soon have to speak in L33tsp34k because apple has copyrighted every single word for a product?
     
  2. Boogle

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    ^This.

    The MS App Store lets devs upload 5 free apps, and unlimited paid apps for this reason. If you've already got 5 free apps in the store you have to pay $19.99 to upload another free one.

    More info on Apple's profit margin with the store here: http://www.fastcompany.com/1663012/app-store-apple-profits-1-android-marketplace-smartphones-iphone
     
  3. VipersGratitude

    VipersGratitude Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking...If I had a company who sold a proprietary Unix-like OS, and there was another massively popular Unix-like OS that was open source, I could save a lot of money on R&D by looking at the best open source implementations of software and refactoring the syntax, as the semantics would remain more-or-less the same.

    Now, some might call that stealing, but that wouldn't stand up in court because my kernel is different, negating the "Standard Interface" definition of a GNU license. I bet if I did that I could get my company a reputation for innovation.

    Just sayin' :rolleyes:
     
  4. imnottrolling

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    Awesome I can't wait to use Apple's new ruggedized blade server chassis and fibrechannel SANs! Oh wait, they don't deal with that sector? So just another case of clueless analysts comparing Apples to Oranges (no pun intended)?
     
  5. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    Isnt it Ironic that Steve started Apple as a way to fight and be Anti-Big Blue (IBM) and be for the people and look at him now screwing over more people and being more monopolistic then IBM ever was... ~_~
     
  6. greypilgers

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    It would seem that in a fairly significant proportion of people, they like the 'underdog' company but when 'the boy done good' they get all negative and 'conspiracy-theory' about them. Whether you like to use their products or not, Apple have been very successful and I don't see why you can't at least have respect for a determined company who have succeeded in their business model. I don't own any Apple products othern an an iPod nano, and have no intentions to either, but I respect their growth and market dominance. If their products really weren't much cop, no amount of marketing would be able to hide it for ever, I suppose.
     
  7. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    watch the documentary turned movie; Pirates of Silicon Valley and then watch MacHeads "Documentary of Mac Fans" and it will pretty much show you how rotten of a company Apple is. Thus my attitude towards them among other reasons and backing and so forth. I dont hate the products, I hate the man and business practices.
     
  8. greypilgers

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    Ha ha ha! Forgive me, as I must confess I haven't seen those programs, but the sensationalist titles like 'Pirates of Silicon Valley' tend to suggest that there may not be objective reporting involved... Unfortunately it is always the way that when someone or something gets very successful and powerful, those around try to knock it off its perch and bring it down. I cannot think of very many large and successful entities that don't have a significant number of detractors, yet I can think of very very many that do. Apple are not unique in many of the things they do, and if they did not operate as a leader, someone else would and this thread would be about them instead. This is the way of things.

    :D
     
  9. ObeyTheCreed

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    I'll believe that, the apps are the only thing that even make the Ipod, Ipad, etc. even worth getting. I mean, the OS is basically the same as windows, and yes i do know that safari is a completely different browser than explorer but what is actually different between firefox, explorer, and safari besides the code? Anyway, the casing scratches reaaaaaally easily, i mean like seriously i dropped my Ipod Touch one time and it had 5 scratches in the back, my phone has been through hell and doesn't have a scratch -.- Another thing is that they just aren't really that useful, i mean you have the android which is touch screen, the original ipods with the mass amounts of memory, and don't even get me started on the battery life. If you don't turn anything on and the brightness lvl is way down then sure it will last 9-10 hours. If notifications, bluetooth (totally useless feature btw) or any other thing is turned on (or in the case of brightness, turned up), including apps. Your battery life is about to sh*t itself. So with that said yes i could believe that Apple is making a ton of money off the apps but those are really the only thing that make the ipod and ipad so popular.
     
  10. kempez

    kempez modding again!

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    Watched them both ages ago, interesting stuff.

    Pirates of Silicon Valley portrays Steve as a bit mental, but makes Bill the big bad guy who stole every idea he ever had. Not seen anything in there to hate him though.

    Big companies and the people who run them are all massively driven (to the point of corruption in cases), in some way. Apple are no different, but I suspect there's a story behind every big company, including Google and others.

    As for Apple being larger than IBM, I do see the irony seeing as how IBM was always the sinister 'Big Brother' character. It's not a surprise now though, IBM are severely outdated and need to do something about that pretty sharpish as they're losing hold of a lot of market segments.
     
  11. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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  12. modfx

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    That was when the Woz was still there.....company went a whole new way when he left
     
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  13. Guinevere

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    That's incorrect I'm afraid. Apple make approximately 1% of their profit via apps on the app store.

    "Apple's gross margin on the App Store is about 44%, according to Munster, assuming 70% goes to the developer, $0.20 plus 2% of the ASP to the credit card company, and 1% for storage and delivery"

    So on a $1.49 app, that's $1.04 to the developer and $0.23 to apple and the same to the credit card company (My guess is apple get more than the CC company)

    That's still a hell of a lot of cash profit, but it's nothing compared to what they make on selling hardware! Apple are a very very profitable company ATM, and that comes from selling hardware. They sell the hardware and people buy apps. People buy apps then want better hardware.

    Love em or hate em, you gotta admit Apple are big ol' bucket of win right now
     
  14. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    ya if it wasnt for him there would be no Apple and when he saw what Steve became he took off.
     
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