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Hardware Are we Ready for 3TB Hard Disks?

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Lizard, 1 Jun 2010.

  1. Fractal

    Fractal I Think Therefore I Mod

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    That seems unreasonable. I have 6x 1.5TB discs in RAID 5 and it only takes 2 days to rebuild (while still uploading data 24/7). Considering statistically that I'm expecting to have around 1 HDD fail on me this year then it is extremely unlikely that more than one will fail at a time.
     
  2. TomH

    TomH BELTALOWDA!

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    If wikipedia's GPT article is to be believed, then I don't think you'll be booting from a GPT drive until you've got that last point, UEFI, sorted. Windows Vista/7 will always prefer the MBR in a hybrid situation and will also refuse to boot from GPT if there's no UEFI present.

    Therefore, if you're still booting x64 Vista/7 from a BIOS now, then you're not using GPT. And I'll be very impressed if someone can transition a Windows installation from MBR to GPT without wiping the disk and starting again.
     
  3. Xir

    Xir Modder

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    How can something called:
    "Perpendicular Patterned Media HAMR with LAZORSSS!!!* " be considered
    :D

    *yes, thats actually written with three S and three !
     
  4. B1GBUD

    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    ^^ LOL
     
  5. Edge102030

    Edge102030 Son, i am disappoint.

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    Will the latest mac computers have any issues at all with this? Being that they have been using an EFI for years now and that Snow leopard is 64bit.
     
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  6. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    I'm curious as to why companies like ASUS and MSI speak as though they have to develop their own UEFI BIOSes from the ground up.
    Are companies like Phoenix & American Megatrends not developing baseline UEFI BIOSes that the motherboard manufacturers could buy and build-on like they do currently?
     
  7. Cas

    Cas What's a Dremel?

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    I am surprised that there is only one small line in the article with regards to Linux support, and it fails to mention the fact that Grub already supports GPT without needing a new UEFI motherboard.
     
  8. jrs77

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    I think it's rather funny to see so much people, that need this much capacity.

    I've got two gaming/working-rigs, an ION-based media-box and a MacBook Pro... all of them 4 machines together don't have more HDD-capacity then 1TB.

    Oh and even my NAS only has 2x 1TB in RAID 1.
     
  9. Cepheus

    Cepheus What's a Dremel?

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    It's not quite that.

    What he's saying is that each hard disk has a likelihood of accidentally introducing a bad sector.
    This, for a raid five system will stop a rebuild in it's tracks, because it will be unable to recover that block correctly.

    The more data you have, the more the chance of that happening. We've got to the point where for a RAID 5 system with 1tb hdds, the likelihood of there being a bad sector is very high. It's one of the drawbacks listed on wikipedia of having large raid 5 arrays.

     
  10. rickysio

    rickysio N900 | HJE900

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    So everyone needs to RAID 5 with the old 40GB drives!

    I understand the fact that reliability is compromised - but surely these manufacturers would have improved reliability first? Their principal clients, are after all, the enterprise, which value reliability.
     
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  11. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Very cool, now it comes down to price
     
  12. Moyo2k

    Moyo2k AMD Fanboy

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    HAMR Time joke was painful :p
     
  13. Doglobster

    Doglobster What's a Dremel?

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    Think about storing uncompressed bluray iso's at 30 gigs+
    each and it doesn't seem so outrageous.
     
  14. Krayzie_B.o.n.e.

    Krayzie_B.o.n.e. What's a Dremel?

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    First Off if your Booting from a 1tb drive or higher your just asking for trouble. Common sense says boot and run OS from 500 gb or smaller, run a raid set up from 700 gb or smaller HDD's and only use 1 TB or greater for storage. Hell my 2 TB HDD is external and I would never use it as OS or running .exe files (I even spray painted U-Haul on it as it's nothing but storage).

    But if bigger is your dream go ahead and when Hamr FAILS and you just lost your Boot sec, OS, and Porn collection you'll be sorry.
     
  15. jonmcc33

    jonmcc33 What's a Dremel?

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    Shame about the noise? What noise? My 2TB Samsung F3 is completely silent when running.

    I use a 2TB Samsung drive in an external USB enclosure. It only powers on when I back up data to it, which is redundantly backed up on DVD+R. So the drive is barely on and if it does die then I still have all the data on DVD+R, which will take a long time to restore.

    I use Directory Lister to make HTML file listings of all the data on the drive as well.
     
  16. jonmcc33

    jonmcc33 What's a Dremel?

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    I set up a 300GB partition on my 1TB drive for the OS/apps. I have used the backup feature in Windows 7 to make a backup image and stored that file on a external USB hard drive. All my porn is backed up to an external USB hard drive as well.

    Make back ups (lesson learned) and you won't need to worry about losing anything.
     
  17. DanaG

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    Actually, it's not all that hard to switch a system from MBR-based booting to UEFI-based booting:
    http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t186207.html

    I know HP's business laptops use UEFI (though the first-gen EliteBooks have it somewhat broken); yet their desktops -- the only place you'd possibly find a 3TB drive -- do not!

    UEFI is also fun to mess with -- I once loaded Apple's Firewire EFI modules on my laptop, and was able to boot Linux from Firewire even though the system doesn't normally support that.
     
  18. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I'll sit back and let all this blow over... let people insane enough to want to boot from a 3TB disk sort it all out. Meanwhile, I'll just use these 3TB drives for storage or a RAID array... and carry on booting from a decent sized disk or a SSD.

    If you have a modern PC with a 64bit OS you can use a 3TB drive as a non-bootable device already.


    Job done :)
     
  19. docodine

    docodine killed a guy once

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
     
  20. Nature

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    "Are we Ready for 3TB Hard Disks"


    I'm just here to dance. So back up off this. I'ma indapendent lady, so don't you try to play me. Huh-huh! You think you're really sexy, you think you're ready 3 TB of HD space.... But you're not! Too hot, ohhh ohh woah-a too hot! 3TB got goin' crazy, make overs and gucci baby, 3TB!!! 3TB!!!
     
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