Arsehole bin men down my road!

Discussion in 'General' started by ArtificialHero, 18 Jun 2007.

  1. ou7blaze

    ou7blaze sensational.

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    I'd be worried if pilots deliberately flew through turbulence just to get a kick haha. :hehe:
     
  2. GiGo

    GiGo was once a nerd.....

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    I like our bin men who leave the bin in the middle of my driveway which means I have to stop on the road to move it!

    Damn annoying bin men but then again would you care if you were doing that job?

    Regards
    GiGo
     
  3. Amon

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    Depending on how waste management is organized in the municipality, the garbage handlers may actually be employed by the city and, as a result, be paid decently with good benefits. It shouldn't be looked at as a shameful profession because they are serving the community much like (controversially) the police.
     
  4. lex90

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    being a police is a shameful profession. It is looked down upon very much in the motorcycle and tuner society. How do you think Rossi would react if his son became a police man. Or Schumacher..
     
  5. FuzzyOne

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    Proud?
     
  6. ch424

    ch424 Design Warrior

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    The sad thing is, I'm not sure if lex90 is joking or not. I know he's European, so maybe there's a slight language barrier... Principle of charity says he's joking. FuzzyOne, I hope you're right too.
     
  7. lex90

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    well obviously its a very important part of our society police men. But people have a love/hate relationship with them. They love them when they save them from being robbed, but hate them when they rob them with a speeding ticket. And seeing as Rossi and Schumacher are both people who have received heavy fines and bans they must not like the police very much.
    As for motorcycle communities.. they dont like police for the same reason. They don't hate them, just dislike them when they get a ticket from them.

    And lets be honest here, it would be great being a police officer, but if your son writes you out a ticket, would you be proud or upset? and don't be a softie and say you'de be proud cause youde be upset hes not letting you go.

    EDIT: and yeah it was sorta meant as a joke.. its kind of a steriotypical reaction. I dont hate police, they just come with a lot of crap when they want to write you a ticket. 3 km/h too fast. 40 euros please.. ^ yours blue man
     
  8. Ramble

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    I'd be upset, but that's his job and it's the law. Frankly, I and anyone else deserve it if they're speeding and endangering lives (no matter how much speeding laws can be refuted by evidence).
     
  9. Amon

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    Hahah that is so true. Police seem to be always looking for trouble. For Schumacher, I think the hate would go only in the direction of the enforcers since, if I were a police officer, I'd feel like a total d**k to be issuing him a traffic ticket. I mean, come on! The guy is a Ferrari-sponsored professional race driver! What the hell else would he do with pedals under his feet and a wheel in his palms? I'd let him go if he were just speeding alone on an empty rural roadway, though.

    P.S.: (off-topic) I hate the paddle shifters that Ferrari implements. What the f**k happened to the good old steel stick in the F40? What kind of driving enthusiast would use paddles?
     
  10. lex90

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    i live in a very rich neigbourhood.. And i think they did it for the blond (hot) mothers who spend their time driving on the phone, then they dont need to move their hand to put it into reverse or in any gears.. well, maybe to the other side of the wheel..
     
  11. FuzzyOne

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    I'd be upset that my own child would be put in a position of giving me a ticket, id be proud of the fact that he's looking out for the good of the people, thats why we pay for the forces right?

    If i was caught speeding I would take it on the chin, why protest?, this is not Deal or no Deal.

    Only last week I was pulled over for having my front fogs on when I came of the sliproad, with that they breathalyzed me, but I did'nt act like an arse, I put my hands up and I explained why my front fogs where on in the first place, in the end we had a joke and a laugh about it, and i was free to go.

    Yes there's the odd ****tard coppper, ive met my fare share, but for the most part there only human and there WORKING.

    Anyways, sorry to go OFT :D
     
  12. Guest-23315

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    Damn bin men wake me up at 6:15 every monday morning. I could have an extra hour of sleep if it wasn't for them!
     
  13. lex90

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    Whenever they are picking up the trash they make me have to wiggle through traffic on my motorized two wheeler because there is such a long traffic jam. Also because i do not drive and never will on the side walk..
     
  14. Agent_M

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    well i just have to say to some of you, be glad you get them coming once a week, from july i will be in a house with some friends and the bin men only come once every two weeks, thats hardly enough, it used to be once a week but they recently reduced it for some unknown reason :(
     
  15. notatoad

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    i used to work for the city, i knew a few garbage truck drivers. their shift started at 6, and the first thing they would do was smoke a joint. then they have a break every 1.5hrs, and they would smoke another joint at each break. be happy it was only beer.
     
  16. Amon

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    It's Canada. We're lazy.
     
  17. lex90

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    mine come every 2 weeks as well. And we have to pay per bin you let them pick up.. its not included in the taxes.. Its like 10 euros a bin.. you put these funky stickers on it which they tear off. We also have to separate the plastic and paper bottles, and put them in a bag. If you don't do it right they'll take the sticker off the bag and leave it there with a note saying you have to redo it. Subsequently you have to put a new sticker on as well..
     
  18. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    Luckily we still get our rubbish taken away weekly. Our binmen are actually quite nice, I know one old lady was having trouble bringing her binbags round from the back of her house so the binmen go round to get them for her.

    As for police officers, I feel they should be some of the most respected people around. The police have been a great help to me in the past and they do a very good 9not to mention dangerous) job. For that you should be grateful. Even to the coppers who give out speeding tickets - if they didn't a lot more people would end up getting killed. the law is there for a reason and they are upholding it.
     
  19. woof82

    woof82 What's a Dremel?

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    Some of the responses in this thread made me quite angry. Specifically Amon's. Police don't go out looking for trouble, you immature bubble-headed fool. They're trying to save people's lives and protect their well-being.

    You think Schumacher shouldn't be given a speeding ticket? That's almost as bad as saying you think an SAS soldier should be allowed to shoot people when he's not on a mission. I mean... come ON, that's his job! Right? Just because Schumacher might be an exceptional driver in a Formula 1 car, doesn't necassarily mean that he's never going to crash while speeding on a public road in a road car. What if a motorcyclist pulls out of a junction because they think the road is clear, then he comes flying round the corner at over 100mph? He will KILL that person. Is that OK? No. You idiot. There are laws for reasons.
    Just like how I can't go out and buy a machine gun. EVEN THOUGH I'm a reasonable person, and I'm not going to use it to kill anyone. Oh the injustice. How can I live in this world when I'm not free to do anything I want? Oh wait - I know, it's beacuse I'm smart enough to realise that it's for the good of the people.

    Maybe one day you'll grow up enough to realise that.

    Until then, stop spouting bull****.
     
  20. Amon

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    Some officers really bend the limits of acceptability. Being issued a traffic ticket for exceeding the speed limit by 3 km/h in an area notorious for the fact that the speed limit is ignored by everyone due to the absence of intersections and pedestrians because I drive a Mitsubishi GTO with an audible catback 3-inch exhaust and performance wheels--oh wait, it's a freeway!--is clearly showing a lack of transparency between police and individuals with Japanese sports cars in light of the recent anti-street racing bill passed by the city. What does that mean? It means, because my vehicle vaguely resembles one from the ill-executed Fast and Furious franchise (that's insulting), I'm assumed capable of street racing and therefore I am singled out from a crowd of other motorists who traversed the same roadway at the same speed; it means prejudice. Where their resources can be spent elsewhere, they've ticketed me because they've assumed a connection between my vehicle and once-a-year street racing fatalities. This baseless assumption is blatantly untrue, but there's not much I can do against an officer having a bad day with his baton up his a**. What does this mean in reply to your defence of officers? It means the following: 1) you live in a crime-ridden community wherein gun fatalities are remarkably high enough to be classified as a war; 2) "people's lives" in your area are lived out by idiots to be endangered often enough to occupy the time of officers as much as you describe them to be; 3) scenario 1) and 2) combined to make for one unprecedentedly incompetent police force (or residents) to be serving your community if they are truly rescuing lives to the degree that you describe them to be; or 4) you're mistaking the the role of a police officer with that of a relief worker in diseased nations. You don't need to patronize the role of an officer to appreciate what they do. And in times of severe danger, they can be the bravest heroes in the world. I know (and hope) that most officers are an invaluable and whole-heartedly committed service to the community, but that can't justify the indecency of those few officers who exercise their self-appointed supremacy over others who have the misfortune of being classified (as I) as a largely undesirable people: motoring enthusiasts. We're not associated with street racing, but just because some of us are interested in Japanese motoring, we get the sh*t end of the a**-picking enforcement of these few individuals (on the basis of a stereotype, of all things). There is nothing behaviorally wrong with police officers, but enacting a new anti-street racing bill while the unfortunately homeless are dying on the city's streets during a record-breaking, bitterly cold winter doesn't quite help their reputation amongst those they "protect and serve".

    About Schumacher, he's not my favourite wheelman in motorsports--one of my least favourites, in fact. Why am I not being prejudicial and ticketing him, then? Because his occupation influences his behaviour (on the road, in this case), similar to how an eloquent writer would usually be an articulate speaker. If I were an officer, I'd be okay with the occasional kick in the throttle on empty roads. I'm not going to be an a**hole and scrape everyone for minorly speeding--I'd indiscriminately ticket everyone, then, and, because of that, give my precinct a distinctly bad rap for it (sound familiar with my scenario above?). I wouldn't go so far as to relate me allowing a bit of speeding to a Secret Air Service specialist since an SAS wouldn't have been inducted into the Service for, with criminal intent, willfully shooting an innocent; but, despite the stretchy comparison, your point is taken. But you need to realize the scenario in which the offense occurs. If Schumacher is speeding his F430 down a busy industrial sector of London, then I certainly will pack down on him and issue him a ticket, if not arrest him. If he's speeding in a semi-private, unmarked (meaning so unused that it neither has painted dividers, nor a name; so that you don't need to "think the road is clear" because, out of common sense, it truly is) rural road, I refuse to be a d**k and smack him with demerit points. At best, a semi-private roadway is only pseudo-governed by traffic laws anyhow, so if I were to arrest him for speeding in said road, he had better be driving an open-cockpit race car. Likewise, skateboarding around a nicely laid-out front park of a downtown corporate building is "illegal" as well, but the most an officer will do is tell you to get lost; he's not going to cuff you because of a little fun, as long as you don't persist solely for the sake of ignoring the rules. Schumacher doesn't get special treatment for bring a race car driver (I would have been just as lenient to anybody else in the same situation), but his racing influence should be considered.

    Your citation of public safety in preventing you from buying certain firearms is not something to take pride in. It shows your willingness to bend down and conform to the system, ill-intent or not. It shows a jurisdiction's protrusive willingness to ignore the fact that you, undoubtedly by good conscience and choice, are incapable of killing another person. It won't matter if rules are "for the good of the people" when everyone is, figuratively or literally, suppressed from individual taste. (Does this remind you of society in the films Equilibrium, V for Vendetta or The Matrix? Everyone's conforming to the rules "for the good of the people", but what's the end result as far as individuality and freedoms are concerned? Emotional sterility.) You need to approach the issue from all sides and consider alternative scenarios in which your argument doesn't quite hold well on (relate: speeding is not right, but what if it were isolated?). The big "What if". Rules are meant to be bent with a human sense of judgment (you have some, right?), not broken and then punished for the sake of puritanism. There are "laws for a reason", but there is humanity (that which makes you a human, psychologically) for a reason as well, but rules alone should never be the rails upon which your life is chaperoned.

    You don't need to call me an idiot. I'm a well free-minded person. "Growing up" won't be needed as I'm not a "bubble-headed fool". A bubble-head would be someone with an adamantly acute opinion on matters; a narrow-minded person with disregard for alternative; possibly you from the looks of your reply. But, like I said, I'm open-minded, so I give myself no right in judging you solely from your only chance to speak on the matter. It's the 'Canadian essence', perhaps. I'm not at all astonished if you think I'm an idiot from the short input I've had on the matter.

    P.S.: I don't drive or own a Z16A GTO, but I hope it was useful in articulating what I meant to say about irascible police officers.
     
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