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News Asus launches Geode-based Eee

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by julieb, 7 Sep 2010.

  1. julieb

    julieb New Member

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  2. docodine

    docodine killed a guy once

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    I guess this isn't that much of a step back, given AMD is still releasing K8s. :lol:
     
  3. TWeaK

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    With 130nm manufacturing process? It's definitely a step back, especially given that my old socket 939 Athlon was 90nm IIRC
     
  4. deathtaker27

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    I think its a good idea to have AMD netbooks as well, but not a good idea to use this processor. wait for the new range next time asus?
     
  5. steveo_mcg

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    I suppose the £100 question is... How much? If it was V cheap it might be worth it for low income households or the like.
     
  6. StoneyMahoney

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    While I'm all for AMD getting into netbooks and ultraportables in a competitive sense, their mobile products to date have run hotter and power hungry compared with the Intel equivalents. AMD's Congo was pretty disappointing on those fronts and did at least have half-decent 3D graphics performance to differentiate it, but that wasn't really the point - there are several other options for ULV-compatible graphics chipsets but nothing to compete with Intel's mobile CPU dominance. Here's hoping that Bobcat can change that, but I think it's a slim chance.
     
  7. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    nah bet they were having a clearout, and thought f**k, we still hav 20000 of these things laying around, best get shot of them
     
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    The sticker price on the link is €328. £270 is too much for what your getting here. Guess they're hoping that they can trade on name alone with this one.
     
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    With that power draw, I can't see this selling particularly well, 130nm is early P4 era as I recall! Why doesn't Asus wait for Bobcat, rather than effectively giving users the perception that AMD=short battery life?
     
  10. Tangster

    Tangster Butt-kicking for goodness!

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    £100 or less and I'd get one, although not for me.
     
  11. TheUn4seen

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    Well, I see someone should at least *attempt* to read something about the topic before giving out opinions.
    Geode NX 1750 is actually faster than Atom, as it's based on Thoroughbred core so it has a much better FPU unit and has full out-of-order execution. I don't have any Geode based industrial machines atm, but given that Pentium M is exactly twice as fast as Atom and Geode NX series are about 20% slower than Pentium M (clock to clock of course), a 1.4 GHz NX will still be a lot faster than Atom.
     
  12. Gareth Halfacree

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    I'd like to see some benchmarks: given that the Atom has twice the cache, a faster bus speed, and a faster clock speed, I'm not 100% convinced by your claims.

    From a quick Google, users are claiming to get a bogoMIPS reading of around 2400 on the NX 1750 compared to 3200 on the Atom N270. Granted, that's a completely unscientific measurement - but I'd definitely be interested to see real benchmark scores, if you've got any.

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    Here we go: PassMark CPU scores for the Atom N270 and the Geode NX 1750, which clearly show the Atom beating the Geode. Not by as much as I would have thought, I'll grant you, but still showing the Atom scoring higher. I see someone should at least *attempt* to read something about the topic before giving out opinions, TheUn4seen. ;)
     
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    geode is slower than atom I thought.. for more power- ah yeah there's the benches above makes no sense
     
  14. steveo_mcg

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    I could see how the Geode might feel snappier in use though. OOE can make a big difference.
     
  15. meandmymouth

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    It doesn't really make sense does it, The point of netbooks is long battery life (as well as portability) at the expense of performance ultimately. So why would you by a netbook that will only last you 2 hours unless it costs about £150. It makes very little sense unless AMD have a considerable stock of Geode CPU's which they need to sell just to make back some money from them.

    Who knows, maybe it could be a freakish success for them
     
  16. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Why isn't anyone making netbooks based around the VIA C7s? My fileserver runs on one and it sips power and is dead reliable. Seems like someone is missing the boat here. :sigh:
     
  17. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

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    Is this the pre Nano chip? IIRC HP did do a Netbook based around a VIA CPU. I seem to recall it had dissapointing performance even when compared to the Atom based Netbooks around at the time.
     
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    Maybe they were just given to Asus by AMD?

    I can't think of any other reason to release this now other than they were free. If that was the case then these need to be £100 at the most.

    The 2 hour battery life is the bigger killer here regardless of performance. I think we all bought netbooks not expecting them to be performace kings anyway but the portability is one of the main reasons.
     
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    First of all, clock to clock Geode is faster. NX 1750 at 1.6GHz would be an equivalent to Mobile AMD Athlon XP-M 1900+ (actually it's exactly the same core) which scored quite a bit better in Passmark.
    And since when synthetic benchmarks represent real world performance? OOE + real FPU mean that system is far more responsive and much better suited for graphics-heavy tasks, so NX 1750 even on stock clock is much faster in Flash, rendering image-heavy websites and even rendering Windows XP UI.
     
  20. RichCreedy

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    i like my explanation better, lol
     
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