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Cooling Athlon 64 FX Waterblock design -Cascade style

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ZapWizard, 19 Dec 2003.

  1. ZapWizard

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    Ok, I have my 5950 waterblock designed, next I need a waterblock for my Athlon 64 FX51

    After tons of research I have decided on a cascade style block.

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    The entire thing may be slimed down and made entirely of copper.
    (To match my 5950 Block)

    The copper jet tubes may simply become normal plastic tubes.
     
  2. Arkangyl

    Arkangyl What's a Dremel?

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    5950... no an FX-51...

    someone win the lottery? :naughty:


    JK... looks petty spiffy though..

    mind if I ask why you have all the barbs at 90* here and not strait? seeing as the 90 isn't needed for the CPU and it restricts flow a bit I'm suprised to see you going that route
     
  3. ZapWizard

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    Due to the design of the case these parts will go in.
    (Images in a few weeks probably)
    Plus I hate the look of tons of random tubes inside a PC.
     
  4. Carbon

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    god zap, are you the robot outa short circuit ?
     
  5. Sc0rian

    Sc0rian Here comes the farmer

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    i got the 5700ultra FX today. Got to setup watercooling on tht
     
  6. Conrad

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    if you keep your barbs at right angles like that you wont be able to get in to the screw underneath for mounting the block. fine if your fitting the block without and tubes attached, but a right bugger if you just wanna change the chip or something. Otherwise looks good, how are the copper pins attached to the middle part of the block, or do they just roam free?
     
  7. ZapWizard

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    I am aware of that, still working on that part.
    I will probably just attach the tubes after the block is installed.

    The copper pins are installed by heating them and pushing them into the plexi.
    (The plexi having holes slightly smaller then the copper tube)
     
  8. Guest-16

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    its probably easier and more water safe to just buy some right angled brass barbs and some teflon tape.
     
  9. Pygo

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    Cool. :brrr: I like it. A suggestion/question though. Adding more pins would of course decrease water flow. This would improve cooling performance assuming the water flow is not too restricted though. And make it would look more cool, and appealing to the male eye.
    Maybe have them even hight in the middle, then get smaller as they get closer to the outlets. Or vise versa. That may hinder cooling performance though, depending on how thick the base of the block is. But if the current design, then thats fine with me... It looks sweet either way :thumb:

    I agree with you on the messy tubing stuff. Neet cables and everything is much better, and makes future dust cleaning a lot easier. (if not upgraded by then, but depends on how dusty your house is.)
     
  10. 8-BALL

    8-BALL Theory would dictate.....

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    They aren't pins.

    They are small tubes which fit nicely into each of the small cups/dimples on the base plate creating a dual impingement effect.

    Can't really get them that much smaller or the flow through each will be too low, and manufacturing will become prohibitively expensive.

    8-ball
     
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    Tis lucky Cather don't copyright his ideas cause dang nabit someone else is joining the band wagon lol

    the design is looking interesting, artn't those right angles gonna removes som precias flow from the design.

    Also scrap the hole might make it out of copper idea that thing will be like hanging a brick of the socket if you catch my drift. Not sure if having the little tubes seperate from the middle plat is a good idea to be honest, cather hit the nail on the head by makingit all out of one piece of Acrylic.

    ok looking good so far right finish my posting later gtg keep it up dude
     
  12. UnLoadeD

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    Looks nice so far. I realize you aren't done yet, but I'm wondering about two things.
    1) I see the two mounting holes, but where are the holes for keeping the three pieces together?
    2) On the middle piece, how are you gonna keep the flow seperate between the nozzle tubes and the outlet holes? Looks like there could be some migration between them.

    peace.
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  13. ZapWizard

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    Oh, I was talking about the small copper tubes in the middle layer.
    The top will have barbs though.

    Well the rendering isn't 100% complete.

    I think you are looking at the exploded view.
    (They are flipped for viewing)
    When assembled there is no cross-connection
     
  14. TetarZ

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    Those 90 degrees angle will drastically reduce your flow. Maybe you could get some slanted (spelling?) barbs as seen on some chipset/gpu waterblocks on pug's site. It will probably be harder to machine though.
     
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    The problem is the amount of space I will have above the CPU in the first place, so I need 90 degree connectors.

    I may use two sets of 45degree copper tubing connectors to make it a little less sharp, yet still compact.

    I plan on using a strong Eheim pump, so it should be able to push enough flow though everything.
     
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    It's going to be to the height of an AGP/PCI card anyway isn't it? (unless of course you're placing HDDs or similar above the waterblock...)

    you should be able to get a decent radius in that restriction...Maybe use copper pipe...

    *n
     
  17. ZapWizard

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    Yep, as high as the AGP, plus it's own pipes.

    I am now thinking of just using a single copper pipe bent smootly.
    (No joints)

    Also I have lots of parts on their way, so a project log is coming soon.
     
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    ????????????

    Don't want to be pedantic, just wondering what you mean - is it "i am now thinking..."?
     
  19. ZapWizard

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    Doh :duh: typo..fixed now.
     
  20. dudeyourmomiscute!

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    zap, swiftech has similiar waterblocks that your planning to build, why not "borrow" their design with the 45* tubes instad of 90* copper pipes that restrict flow?
     
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