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Hardware ATI Radeon HD 6870 Review

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  1. sstteevveenn

    sstteevveenn What's a Dremel?

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    Looks to me like you have the AA pictures the wrong way round.
     
  2. Jezcentral

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    Agreed.
     
  3. Fabou

    Fabou What's a Dremel?

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    How come you reviewed two AMD/ATI(no jealous) card the same day ond opened none. I want to see the cooler.
     
  4. Redbeaver

    Redbeaver The Other Red Meat

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    that makes sense!

    but if u consider the price, isnt 470 is more expensive than $250? that would mean 6870 is the sweet winner here....
    but 460 is also about $200, so i would definitely stick with 460 just becoz im such an nvidia fanboi... and overclockability i suppose...

    but competition is always good. always.
     
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    New card looks great, I am also a 1gb 4890 OC owner and would be interested in a performance comparison on the new benchmarks (since I am sure anyone upgrading to the 5850 from the 4890/4870 would have been labeled a mug, what about the situation now?). Although the power consumption and noise comments alone may sway it before CPC decide to run another 'to upgrade or not upgrade' article.

    I also beleive this is a naming coup for ATI/AMD (the cards are stickered AMD, no?), my reflex thought on reading that the 6870 card is direct replacement for the 5850 was 'thats amazing value!' (shame!) because naturally anyone used to seeing the naming conventions thinks 6*** = next generation, brilliant, then **70 vs **50, next performance card up, hence coming in at the same price = excellent value. Psychologically it is difficult to react any other way, AMD are sneaky evil geniuses! What I take away with me is read all the reviews, stats and figures very carefully!
     
  7. Er-El

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    Why did they have to implement 2 mini-DisplayPort's? They could've at least put 1 normal DisplayPort on it.
     
  8. Material

    Material Soco Amaretto Lime

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    So go back and have a look. We cant compare every card ever made. Its quite simple.

    An overclocked 4890 got these results, which you can compare to, say, a GTX 460 768MB which got these results in the same game. Just make sure you compare the right graphs as we dropped the 1,280 x 1,024 testing a while back.

    This will tell you that an overclocked HD 4890 (at least one running the 850MHz core and 3,900MHz memory of the Asus review card) is roughly about 3fps slower than the GTX 460 768MB and about 4fps slower than the 1GB version of the same card at 1,680 x 1,050. A simple bit of maths shows that this means the GTX 460 768MB is about 20% faster than the 4890 we tested.

    Then go and have a look at the reviews we put up today to see how your current card relates to the DX 11 cards on show. Obviously anything faster than a GTX 460 768MB is more than 20% faster than your current card and anything slower than one is less than 20% faster than your current card.

    Its not a perfect apples to apples comparison but it'll help you get a good idea of what you'd gain from upgrading.
     
  9. leveller

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  10. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    At some point you have to give up a game. Going by that logic we'd be looking at Half-Life benchmarks because decade old cards were tested using it, and then the cards following them used it for consistency, then the cards after, and again, and again, etc. At some point old games have to be phased out and new games have to be phased in. Crysis was replaced with Arma II.

    Personally, I feel it's quite reasonable to drop a game when it comes to be a two generation gap. 4000 to 5000 had many of the same games, and 5000 to 6000 does as well. As has been said many times, there is a finite amount of time available to test these cards since Bit tries to stay quite rigid in their testing. Seeing as this is a PC enthusiast and modding site, it makes sense to cover the bleeding edge generation-to-generation upgrades first, and often exclusively.

    If you really need to see your 4000 series card compared to a 6000 then look at the Crysis numbers for your 4000 card compared to a 5000 card, see how much lower it is by percentage, then look at that same 5000 card compared to a 6000 card on one of the newer test games, and apply that percentage to the 5000's numbers. Roughly what your 4000 card will get.
     
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    Niftyrat Dremel overpriced like EA games

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    I like the arma2 benchmark but then i have a 5870 and arma2 and don't have crysis so it means more to me. Not bad priced cards overall but would be interesting to see the equivalent of the 5870 and what it does to performance
     
  13. mrbens

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    Not a bad card. At stock speeds the 6870 keeps up with an overclocked 460 1GB so it'd be interesting to get some overclocked benchmarks of the 6870 card too to see exactly what it can do!

    Actually it'd be great if you could feature stock & OCd FPS in all the graphs as I doubt many people reading this forum will be running their card at stock speeds so some OC better than others which is useful to know when comparing which card to buy.

    Also just because we are not playing Crysis anymore doesn't make the benchmarks any less interesting so please bring it back and maybe add a few more games too for comparison and include SLI/Crossfire setups too like Anandtech etc do.
     
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    Then what should be used is either AMD Radeon or just Radeon instead of ATI as thats no longer proper.
     
  15. frontline

    frontline Punish Your Machine

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    I can't understand all the comments about 'disappointing performance' in this thread. Looks like people are comparing a 5870 costing £300 with a 6870 costing less than £200 and coming to the conclusion that even though the performance of the new card isn't too far off the 5870, it is poor value - despite being 33% cheaper.

    If you want a true indicator of how the 6800 range compares, wait until the 6900 series, which is designed as the replacement for the 5870 and 5970.

    Oh, and nice reviews as always bit-tech.
     
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    What adaptors do I need to get eyefinity working? Got 3 DVi monitors.
     
  17. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    I think the 6870 is an excellent card considering how more and more games are console ports graphics outside of benchmarks arent pushed as hard as they could be and so a card like this could last a user a long time which makes it even more of a great value as you save money in the long run. Outside of bragging and bench competitions there really isnt a need to go with the really expensive high end cards.
     
  18. Waynio

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    I was feeling unimpressed expecting it to be a beast but then got to the pricing part & now I'm impressed :), very close to the performance of a 5870 at 2 thirds of the cost = freaking awesome :D, I'll be recomending the 6870 to my bro :), these cards in crossfire would be incredible for the cost.

    Also quite happy knowing I have no need to upgrade until next gen, woo hoo :D.
     
  19. Material

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    At last, sense.
     
  20. Tyinsar

    Tyinsar 6 screens 1 card since Nov 17 2007

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    (emphasis mine)

    Frankly I'm surprised and Very disappointed at this decision by AMD. My setup requires TWO dual-link DVI ports. If I have to give up another port I'm OK with that but at this rate I don't see buying another AMD GPU. :grr:











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