Displays Best 22" for under £300?

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  1. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    I'm looking for a new Monitor for my PC. I'd like it to be 22" (not interested in 24", been there done that, too big for my desk and 1920x1200 pushes the latest games too hard).

    My primary preference is a monitor with an excellent screen. I watch all my movies, play games, etc on it so the quality of the picture is the most important aspect.

    I have no need for additional inputs, just a DVI is fine.

    Budget is £300, ideally £200-250.

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  2. DorkSterr

    DorkSterr Hakuna Matata

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    You're in a bit of a bind there. The best image quality will come from IPS and xVA panels (and their derivatives) only. The problem is they're usually not quite fast enough for gaming. TN panels are fast, but the image quality sucks, especially for widescreen panels. The w2207h, for instance, is based on a TN panel. The HP LP2275W might be worth looking into, however. It's got an S-PVA panel, so image quality is top notch. It's also pretty speedy, unless you're a hardcore gamer (in which case you'd probably still use a CRT :) ).
     
  4. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    I'm a serious gamer, and that will be the monitor's primary use, but I doubt I'm "hardcore". I upgraded from a top-end CRT to a high-end 20.1" Dell several years ago and instantly preferred the Dell LCD.

    If you want to compare to what I'm used to, my current monitor is a "BenQ FP241W". You'll think I'm crazy for downgrading, but just trust me it's what I want ;)

    Thanks

    EDIT: Do you think I'd really notice the improvement from an S-PVA panel? I do a bit of photoshop work and stuff, but nothing professional, or even anything that's printed.

    Mostly, I just want my games to look great, good detail, good colours, and good blacks. Likewise for movies.
     
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  5. DorkSterr

    DorkSterr Hakuna Matata

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    Where did you read/hear that the w2207h is TN? Last I read it was an active matrix TFT.
     
  6. Krikkit

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    Apparently it's a "22"WS Innolux TN Film (MT220WW01 V1)" panel.

    The LP2275W would be my vote - it sounds like an epic monitor. :D
     
  7. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    This monitor seems good, though its an older model apparently? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152583

    This ones seems to be a new model, though its the home model, whereas the one above is the business model. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...eam 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black

    Anyone know the difference? The top one has a lower "dynamic" contrast ratio, but the same standard ratio.

    The thing that attracts me most about the top one is the height-adjustment which is important to me.

    Thanks
     
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    The 2243 is quite old, but still good imo. :D

    I'd still go for the LP2275W though.
     
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    All LCDs are TFTs (thin film transistors). TN, xVA and IPS are variants of the basic design. TN panels are fast but have lousy colours (often 6 bit with dithering) and even lousier viewing angles (that actually their worst problem and it's especially noticable on widescreen panels). xVA (PVA/MVA) panels have great colours and great black levels, as well as great viewing angles, but response time is quite a bit worse than TN panels. IPS panels have even greater viewing angle stability, great colours (albeit a bit worse in the black level department), but the response time is usually in the range of xVA panels.
     
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    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    dell screens are always a good choice, particularly in your price bracket, for the money i love my 2253LW, but you're looking to spend more obviously
     
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    Since you have a BenQ FP241W you already have a monitor with an xVA panel (a P-MVA from AUO to be precise). I doubt that switching to e.g. a HP LP2275W would give you a much better image, but possibly a bit better response time. Switching to any TN-based monitor will seriously change image quality for the worse. As for response time, you'd trade up in that department. But in all other departments you'll lose big time.

    It's a shame that you can't get a larger monitor, both price- and spacewise. Otherwise I'd probably have recommended you the LG W2600HP-BF (26"). It's got an S-IPS panel and nearly no input lag.
     
  13. DorkSterr

    DorkSterr Hakuna Matata

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    Would I be able to see a qulity difference between the monitor I have now (HP w2207h 22") and this
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018927&cid=MT.282
     
  14. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    It's interesting you say that (I never new my monitor wasn't using a TN panel) as I am currently testing out my girlfriends Samsung SyncMaster 233bw, and I find the image quality to be superior in ways. Perhaps I have my screen set up wrong? I have read as many guides and posts about it as I can. I dont find the image quality bad but I do have a few issues with it such as:

    1. Its just too big, having to look around the screen is not fun. I could wall mount it i suppose.
    2. Even if wall mounted, the resolution is high, so everything is small on the screen, and moving it further away will make me squint or move closer to read small text etc.
    3. Its so bloody bright! I read that setting it's brightness to below 30 causes the colours or something to change or something bad anyway. But even at 30, its still too darn bright.
    4. With the brightness set so low, games look more lifeless. I can up brightness in-game, but this tends to wash-out the colours. My GF's Samsung on the other hand, when on 30-50 brightness isn't painful to the eyes but the image and colours are still vibrant.
    5. Modern games are always pushing my games hard. I can upgrade it, but its already pretty high end and I only have to continue upgrading. With a lower resolution, now, and through every upgrade and every new game, it will run that bit better than this 24". Call me spoilt, but I cant stand playing FPS games below 40-50FPS, and with all the money I spend on my PC I want as close to max settings as possible.
    6. Like I said above, my GF's cheap(ish) Samsung TN panel monitor appears of better image quality.

    It was probably a bad idea saying I wanted the "best" image quality. I want the image quality to be great, but I'm no artist or photographer so the very best will probably be of little difference to my eyes, as pointed out by the cheapo samsung appearing better than my top-notch BenQ (but again, could be my settings). I'm also happy with the response times of these regular Samsung's and Dell's.

    Thanks for assistance, I hope I can figure something out!
     
  15. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    Right, I compared the two screens side by side and it then became instantly clear that mine was vastly superior in colour and detail. As such I have decided to stick with my monitor and wall mount it and put myself much further away, which will also hopefully allow me to turn the brightness higher without causing eye strain.

    Thanks for the all advice despite this conclusion!
     
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    I'm happy to hear that from you! Maybe you could consider upgrading your graphics card in order to boost the fps?

    I'm a bit spoiled too regarding fps. That's why I'm *still* using a CRT. Less than 100 fps in CS is just a no-go for me! :)
     
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    h_frost789 What's a Dremel?

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    here are some monitors that i've found under 300
    that are actually really good bargains
    BenQ E2200HDA
    Acer ET.EV3WE.A03
    Asus 22" Lcd Monitor Vw223b
     

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