Procesor:Intel Q9650 ,(3Ghz ,12mb cache,1333mhz FSB ) Memory:2X2GB Kingstone DDR3 1066mhz Graphic card:Nvidia GTX280 manufactured by Gigabyte Motherboard:Gigabyte EP43C-DS3,intel chipset P43, 1xPCI 2.0 express16X HDD:Sata 500GB Source:550W (I dont know the brand) Cooler : recomanded by the procesor manufactured This is my new Pc.I don`know if I choose verry well those componets,so please guys tell me can i get the best quality\perfomance from all in this configuration. I use my computer most of times for gaming(all freshlyes games),and for watching movies.Do you think i can watch pure HD movies or to play all of the new games wich exist,with this sistem? My operating sistem is Microsoft Vista Ultimate (64-bits). Thank you for your any opinion or advice before hand.
Just on the surface there are several major points of unbalance... The CPU is overpowered (and overpriced) compared to the remainder of your build. A Q9550 or even a Q6600 will save you a ton of money and yield no real loss in performance (so long as you overclock). DDR3 memory isn't worth the asking price for anything other than a Core i7 rig right now. Memory bandwidth limitations on every other platform mean DDR2 will yield within 5% of DDR3 performance for a much lower price. Besides, that's very low-speed DDR3 anyway. A 550W power supply may be pushing things if you're looking to overclock the CPU or leave much room for upgrades down the line. Perhaps you'd make a better start by telling us a little more about this build. What is your ideal budget? Your maximum budget? Are you comfortable overclocking, and if not, are you willing to learn how to overclock? What kind of games are you playing/planning to play? What resolution is your monitor? How many movies/anime/games/etc. are you looking to keep stored on the hard drive? Those kinds of things. Let us know. - Diosjenin -
Lots of thanks for your reply.Well my monitor has 1680X1050 resolution...but i have also a hdtv to play on it.I would like to play games like Cryses ,Cal of duty,Half life,Assasin, or all caind of strategy games ,...and any popular game like gta or NFS........ I dont know to overclock but yes i am planning to learn .Do you think i can do the sistem more stable ...if i overclock it.how about the motherboard...do you think it1s "good"....for that ?
I'm glad you picked on something about the PSU, sadly you picked on the very very wrong thing. 550watt is enough for this system, even overclocked, even with upgrades planned down the line. The fact that you don't know the brand is the no no! You need a good solid brand PSU, it's never wise to skimp as if the PSU goes, it takes other hardware with it. A brand such as Corsair, cant go wrong. The HX520 for modular, the CM400 or TX450 (I think they're all the right letters)
This little list costs £1,228.07. If you want to get it cheaper drop the sound card and get a cheaper case. HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 1024MB GDDR5 Lian-Li PC-V2010B Aluminium Full Tower - Black Asus Maximus II Formula Intel P45 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-Express Sound Card Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU Corsair 4GB DDR2 XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500C5 TwinX (2x2GB) Supplied with Airflow Fan Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103UJ) Thermalright TRUE Black 120 CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/LGA775) Pioneer DVR-216DBK 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) Noctua NF-S12 800RPM 120mm Silent Case Fan - 3 Pin
Brand is something that would be taken care of with a new spec list, and several people would come up with spec lists for Fares soon enough anyway (we've already got one). I just figured that would be taken care of in time. Wattage, though, is an issue here. I know full well it can handle the system that was originally specced, but if there's a major upgrade in store for that system a year down the road, it would likely be another GTX 280. (Provided it gets a motherboard with 2x PCI-E, which we'd also probably spec for him later). No 550W supply could cope with that, name brand or not. - Diosjenin -
Someone has a bad case of think-I-need-more-power-than-I-actually-do-itis! A PC will never be at 100% full load and so it's rare that you need such a beasty PSU. I wouldn't mind finding out how much power my PC actually uses to be honest
@TweakTown Do you need a 1000W PSU to run two GTX 280s? Probably not. But you need more than 550W. Period. - Diosjenin -
Ah yeah sorry, I must not have read that he was going to run 3 GTX280s in tri-sli... Wait, have we established his budget yet?
No. Nor have we established that he was going to run Tri-SLI, actually. I was only quoting that to make the point that multiple high-end GPUs are going to eat more than 550W, and that even if the current build only uses one, it's good to be prepared for adding another later on as a possible upgrade path. However, throwing together the core components on Newegg (CPU, mobo, RAM, GPU, hard drive) yielded a budget of almost $1200 - so the budget for the tower total is probably in the $1500-1600 range (1040-1110 GBP), including the OS. That's probably as good a place as any to start. - Diosjenin -
I see your point but I don't see much use in "planning for the future" and making sure you have what you might need if you upgrade later on to what would be considered good in today's tech.
Thanks a lot guys for your sugestions.Now I`m wondering if the motherboard is a good one ,what do you think? and also i want to know what`s the diferents between chipsets(P43 and P45 for example).
Northbridge: Without getting into the Gs and Qs of micro-ATX systems, Intel chipsets over the last three generations have been designated with a letter indicating general performance strength, a number designating the chipset generation, and a second number designating the relative performance within the performance bracket designated by the letter. I assume P is performance and X is eXtreme (really, what else would they be?). The chipset generation moniker is (thus far) 3, 4, or 5 - 3 and 4 are only applicable to Core 2 processors and 5 is only applicable to Core i7. The last number, general performance within the lettered performance bracket, is a bit more odd. X-series chipsets only receive an 8, whereas P-series chipsets have either 5 or 3 (or 1, but you don't see those much anymore). So in the 4-series generation, you had X48, P45, and P43 (and P41), in decreasing order of performance. Most of that performance is classified by graphics bandwidth. For example, X48 could support two full-bandwidth PCI-Ex16 slots (or three, one with full-bandwidth and two with half-bandwidth), P45 could support one full-bandwidth slot or two with half-bandwidth each, and P43 could only support one full-bandwidth slot. I've also seen reports of overclocking limits placed on boards with **3 and **1 chipsets, though I don't know if that's universally applicable. I believe that same criteria map to the *3*-generation chipsets. As of now, Intel has only released the X58 chipset from the *5*-generation. Southbridge: Yes, there's another chipset. On Intel boards, these are designated by ICH, then the generation number, then an R if it supports RAID. Southbridge chipsets are not always identical across Northbridge chipset generations. For example, Intel began releasing it's 4-series chipsets with the X48, which included ICH9R-series southbridges. But once they released P45 a few months down the line, they had completed the next generation of southbridges, so P45s had ICH10(R)s. If you're looking at an nVidia board (which you may want to, if you want to bat for the green team and are planning for future upgrades), you should consider boards from their 700-series chipsets - 750, 780, and 790. 750 has support for dual-SLI, 780 for tri-SLI, and 790 for tri-SLI and DDR3 memory (not recommended). nVidia has no separate southbridge chipset for Core i7 and beyond, however - they've instead decided to (generally) give *5*-generation boards the ability to use SLI without a separate Southbridge. - Diosjenin -
Thanks for clearing my doubts.so with a 550W source do you think i can overclock my memories to 1600 Mhz and if yes it is a problem if the procesor has the FSB 1333Mhz
Limitations on RAM overclocking are more limited to the RAM sticks themselves than the PSU - they really don't chew up that much power. Frankly, I wouldn't recommend overclocking the RAM all that much, or really at all. On a Core 2 system, there isn't enough available memory bandwidth to make any more than a 5-10% difference in performance between the low end (DDR2-800) and the extreme high end (DDR3-2000). - Diosjenin -
