Gaming BioShock Gameplay Review

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 21 Aug 2007.

  1. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

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    Mine doesnt work now, worked all yesterday, today I get a securom error whenever I start, I reluctantly uninstalled and reinstalled but I still get the same error, now im stuck because ive installed it twice, this has ruined my bank holiday weekend, Bioshock is a POS ;(
     
  2. Amon

    Amon inch-perfect

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    I partially agree. You make a point in that games' initial feedback are often overpowering and influence the rating too much. However, at the same time, we can't make a game that's impervious to time: one that would be the best, forever. Something I give 10/10 to would be Half-Life and Quake 3 Arena because both games were incredibly fun to play, have extensively supported the modding community, and have certainly stood the test of time--but they aren't games that are undefeatable, so I negate that prospect when judging a game.
     
  3. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    Well yes, I agree that not everything will be uber forever. But you can still say "that deserved 95% at the time, even though it's been outdone by later games" as opposed to saying later "that wasn't nearly as good as I thought it was at the time, but I got caught up in the hysteria".

    Let's face it, with killer graphics and an interesting storyline we can be tempted to say "this is the best game evar". A good critic should remain objective and balanced, and point out the faults in everything (there are faults in everything, nothing is perfect). To give a perfect score is to say that nothing can eclipse something, and to say that is to imply perfection.

    It's maybe an almost philosophical point, but it's one that I think is reasonably important to a rating system.
     
  4. ElZog

    ElZog Defeater of Satan's Transformo Sofa

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    Started playing today, the opening with the plane crash is very spooky, and the entrance to the tower even more so (didn't play the demo). Just got incinerate and my first tonic, loving the game so far, very creepy.
     
  5. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    This is actually all narrowed down in a score legend I wrote in the aftermath of the Spiderman 3 review, but which Tim hasn't seen fit to publish.

    From the legend: "In a game, a score this high is one which has bowled us over with depth and gameplay and which we consider to have classic status. If you don’t own this game you definitely should and even non-gamers should consider picking this game up as it surely deserves a place in any game library."

    BioShock is an instant classic and looks set to stay that way - though probably a lesser known classic, like Deus Ex or System Shock 2 - which it is similar too. It is an incredible game, which Tim rang me up at home to talk about today after he reached a certain bit I bullied him into reaching this afternoon. I really can't describe how awesome it is - unfortunately, a lot of people don't see how great it is because want to argue or because they don't play all the crap games out there like I have too.

    Ten out of ten is a perfect score, but it doesn't indicate a perfect game because there is no such thing. The review actually discusses a few of the games flaws, so I know it isn't perfect. A score of ten is merely a recognition of achievement, not a seal of a 'perfect' game.

    Hope that clears that up.
     
  6. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    I'm curious to know if anyone here has read Atlas Shrugged before playing the game, and if so, what they thought of the games take on that ideal. From what I've played it seems a fairly firm pronouncement that a Gulch (be it Galt's or Ryan's) cannot work, but I am curious if there's more to it than this.

    Oh and CardJoe, prove you're a real Bioshock fan, read the 1100 page book that inspired massive parts of it :D
     
  7. Tim S

    Tim S Well-Known Member

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    As Joe has already mentioned, we've chosen to score out of 10 to keep things simple. There's nothing worse than making something more complicated than it needs to be.

    The same could be said for hardware too - should we score those out of 100 too? In my eyes, it is completely pointless to overcomplicate things - what is the difference between 81% and 82%? 10/10 does not signify perfection, but if you never give a score of 10, you may as well just score out of 9.

    This proves the point I made above - if you're never going to give 100, you're scoring out of 99.

    Again, 10/10 is by no means perfect (whether it concerns hardware or games), it's a score that signifies something that should be at the top of anyone's shortlist. In the case of this particular review, Joe didn't shy away from any of the flaws but when you're sitting there thinking of reasons to NOT give something a 10, it's hard to shy away from it. I certainly sat thinking what could possibly force this down to a 9, but there's simply nothing.
     
  8. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    REMOVED Because saying it's a nice ending is a spoiler according to Tim
     
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  9. specofdust

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    Thankyou DougEdey....after CardJoe went to such lenghts not to give away the story, it's great to have someone throwing bits at us without bothering with spoiler tags :grr: (fixed - Tim)

    Tim, I see what you're saying, but with a 100% system, you are scoring out of 100%. You compare every aspect of a game to, what you imagine as, perfection. Comparing real games to the "god" game, if you get what I mean. It means that no game should ever reach 100% because no game is perfect, but it doesn't mean you should artificially limit yourself to 99%, simply that no game could ever reach 100%. If you're marking out of 9 then no game should reach 9, out of 5, then no game should reach 5.

    All imo of course, I see why you guys are doing what you're doing, I'm just not that fond of perfect scores.
     
  10. ComputerKing

    ComputerKing <img src="http://forums.bit-tech.net/images/smilie

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    This game looks HOT really! DAM I have to get from some place... MMM

    Thanks for this. WOW.
     
  11. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    I didn't say anything about the story line! But I removed it because it was such an arsey request
     
  12. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    Had a copy in my hand in Game twenty minutes ago. Didn't buy it on the basis of fears that it might not work, work for a while then not work, work until next year then not work, or work until SecureRom go bust, then not work, or possibly just crash halfway through.

    Phil
     
  13. K

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    That was a spoiler?? Hahaha. I was specifically gonna post after Doug saying that if anyone did actually post a spoiler I'd kill them!
     
  14. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    3 reaosns why you should not play bioshock...

    nr.1 its addictive and you gonna play it for a long time...
    nr.2 its not System Shock 3...
    nr.3 no Co-op mode...

    now... for why you should play it...

    nr.1 darkness is used far better than in other games (read: its not just abused to make you get lost like in doom3)....
    nr2. the story (cant say much about it without giving a spoiler... but it rocks)
    nr3. eyecandy (who doesnt like that?)...
    nr4. its not boring non stop shooting
    nr5. violent (like a shooter has to be, but without going over the top or under the minimum)...
    nr6. you still not playing it? wtf....
     
  15. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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  16. completemadness

    completemadness New Member

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    bioshock isn't the only game that uses securom firstly, i know so many other games that do (CnC3 for eg ?) and they all have the same problem

    I also don't think securom is really a rootkit, its not hiding itself, you can find it
    The only thing is, its a bit hard to delete it, however, securom only runs when its called, its not a process that's running 24/7

    I think calling it a "rootkit" is going a bit far tbh, rootkits are far far far more sinister, we would be lucky if rootkits were as easy to find as securom
     
  17. Tim S

    Tim S Well-Known Member

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    This is the Internet, "problems" are nearly always blown out of proportion
     
  18. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

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    I finished this Sunday at 4am and got to say its amazing and fun. This is one of those rare single player games that I want to play through again. THe only games I can remeber ever playing through to the end more than once are

    Midnight Resistance on Amiga 500+
    Streets of Rage 2 on Sega Megadrive
    Gears of War on 360

    I love this game and the graphics, story and the sound effects are perfect and set the atmosphere. If you have a 360 or a powerful PC then get it. If you dont then get a 360 or upgrade your PC because this is a great game.
     
  19. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes How many wifi's does it have?

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    You don't really need a powerful PC.... what counts the most is a very good video card, CPU is secondary.
     
  20. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    Hmmm, 10 minutes into the demo was as far as I got before getting bored, I'm not impressed at all.
    I just couldn't get excited about running around in a few dark rooms bashing in the skulls of people on flames.

    Is it really worth me playing on or is just more of the same?
     
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