Celt, give me a bell when you wanna set up a server off your ADSL... I'd think at 6+ people it'd start to get laggy ... 10 definatly... Anyhow - I've done one or two.. you dont *need* to download the standalone HLDS really - unless the comptuer is soley a server etc. Half-Life isntalls come with HLDS in them anyhow. You just add a line or two to the server.cfg file to get it register'd on the won masterlist, it might even be in there already.